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    Best non stim fat burner?


    I usually stack shift with a low stim fat burner when I'm looking to reduce stim level, but recent blood work shows very low free t3 and tsh. So I want to avoid using any t2 supps like shift. What else can I take non stim to stack with a stim fat burner? Some things I have used and like are:
    Tta500
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    Wondering what else is good out there for stimfree burners ! Thanks
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    We have Natural efx out and it is a huge seller with one of our national retail chains. It has an appetite suppressant and mood enhancer but is stim free. We also have 7 keto Dhea in it as well which has a huge following. You could take this product year round and it will not hit your receptors. If you have any other questions please let me know. You can use a coupon code of fit10 and get 10% off of on Nutraplanet.com. It is a great deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza
    I usually stack shift with a low stim fat burner when I'm looking to reduce stim level, but recent blood work shows very low free t3 and tsh. So I want to avoid using any t2 supps like shift. What else can I take non stim to stack with a stim fat burner? Some things I have used and like are:
    Tta500
    Rk500
    Alcar

    Wondering what else is good out there for stimfree burners ! Thanks
    Ive used Rasberry ketones before and wasnt impressed at all.Maybe i wasnt dosing high enough,but did follow labwl directions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brucega
    We have Natural efx out and it is a huge seller with one of our national retail chains. It has an appetite suppressant and mood enhancer but is stim free. We also have 7 keto Dhea in it as well which has a huge following. You could take this product year round and it will not hit your receptors. If you have any other questions please let me know. You can use a coupon code of fit10 and get 10% off of on Nutraplanet.com. It is a great deal.
    Can you elaborate on 7keto dhea? How Woul it work with test powder and jack3d micro.
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    7 Keto dhea is a trademarked ingredient that Dr. Oz has stated as one of the best "belly buster" products out for people. We had already knew that the ingredient is a quality ingredient before he put it on his show. I could not tell you how it would react with those two products but we have never had any complaints of adverse reactions with it. Here is a link to give you more information on that ingredient. I want to point out that 7 keto dhea is just one ingredient in this product. http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple...me=7-KETO-DHEA
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    I like RK500 with TTA500. Take a look at the new Thyrocaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf
    I like RK500 with TTA500. Take a look at the new Thyrocaps.
    This plus PLCAR and Green tea
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Can you elaborate on 7keto dhea? How Woul it work with test powder and jack3d micro.
    Pick up some Abliderate Advanced if you're going the 7 keto route. Works wonders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    This plus PLCAR and Green tea
    I like green tea but didn't include it because it has a small amount of caffeine in it and he asked for non-stim, although I think it's nominal enough in the sns version to be considered so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf

    I like green tea but didn't include it because it has a small amount of caffeine in it and he asked for non-stim, although I think it's nominal enough in the sns version to be considered so.
    Technically RKs also have a tiny stim effect, yet both are negligible IMO , and at the price they are at...I would say it can only get better by adding:

    SNS TTA-500
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    I'm a big fan of Lean Xtreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf
    I like RK500 with TTA500. Take a look at the new Thyrocaps.
    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    This plus PLCAR and Green tea
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas
    I'm a big fan of Lean Xtreme.
    I can't take any cortisol control products or thyroid products due to medical history.

    Rk does
    Not stim me I take 1000mg pre bed with 3z currently and am on tta right now at 2 caps a day with oep 3 caps a day. I just came off a strong ephedra produc and reduction am so there is still a substantial void in stimulant content from my last stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I can't take any cortisol control products or thyroid products due to medical history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Technically RKs also have a tiny stim effect, yet both are negligible IMO , and at the price they are at...I would say it can only get better by adding:

    SNS TTA-500
    Whats the main benefits of using tta500?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999

    Whats the main benefits of using tta500?
    Shrink fat cells, prevent fat accumulation
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    Thoughts on African mango?
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    Decimate was created just for this purpose. Awesome stim free product and can be stacked with other stim products. Just saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by GENOMYX
    Decimate was created just for this purpose. Awesome stim free product and can be stacked with other stim products. Just saying
    Why not add some double D's into the mix and add DCP to deciMATE and make it a killer non stim fat stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Whats the main benefits of using tta500?
    Jay I had explained it to you in a post already...check out the promo I am running...I summarize it there too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Technically RKs also have a tiny stim effect, yet both are negligible IMO , and at the price they are at...I would say it can only get better by adding:

    SNS TTA-500
    I agree on the bolded especially at the higher doses some of us use


    For one for TTA500 cant be beat(price and results)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GENOMYX
    Decimate was created just for this purpose. Awesome stim free product and can be stacked with other stim products. Just saying
    Yes I have seen it and looks great. Planned on using at some point, but now that I cantuse t2, decimate just got bumped up the list
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    Thanks so that's a no lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    I agree on the bolded especially at the higher doses some of us use


    For one for TTA500 cant be beat(price and results)
    Agreed.

    And how much are you dosing...good God...did Coop get you on his Mega-dosing ideas for certain supps?
    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Yes I have seen it and looks great. Planned on using at some point, but now that I cantuse t2, decimate just got bumped up the list
    Forskolin and Rawolscine is also off your list Cam. Get your tests done first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vicesoldier

    Why not add some double D's into the mix and add DCP to deciMATE and make it a killer non stim fat stack
    or SlinSane v2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Jay I had explained it to you in a post already...check out the promo I am running...I summarize it there too...

    Deflation! How long has this Balloon Resisted it? SNS TTA Promo!
    Oh my bad,i post so much i forget... Sorry bud
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza
    Agreed.


    Forskolin and Rawolscine is also off your list Cam. Get your tests done first.
    Fock forgot it had forskolin. Jesus .
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    or SlinSane v2?
    Just a thought.
    Also a possibility
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    Can taking a product like shift cause adverse affects if I have low t3 and tsh. Could it lower it further?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Can taking a product like shift cause adverse affects if I have low t3 and tsh. Could it lower it further?
    Yes...

    And forskolin is just fine for you, not sure why it wouldn't be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Yes...

    And forskolin is just fine for you, not sure why it wouldn't be?
    Alright. So I will remove all plans To use shift.

    I remember when I took kelp with iodine, I held weight n was extra soft..When I dropped it, I seemed to lean out noticeably.. I'm speculating that anything that's supposed to speed up thyroid/metabolism is actually having the reverse affect in me... Is this possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Yes...

    And forskolin is just fine for you, not sure why it wouldn't be?
    Hm it has hormonal interactions upon a longer dosing time span doesn't it Coop? Just wondering if he should dose any kind of supplements without his study...but I guess this it too much for me to guess or advise...You handle this one ! You are the Dr. here hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Alright. So I will remove all plans To use shift.

    I remember when I took kelp with iodine, I held weight n was extra soft..When I dropped it, I seemed to lean out noticeably.. I'm speculating that anything that's supposed to speed up thyroid/metabolism is actually having the reverse affect in me... Is this possible?
    If you were megadosing iodine, suppression is possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Hm it has hormonal interactions upon a longer dosing time span doesn't it Coop? Just wondering if he should dose any kind of supplements without his study...but I guess this it too much for me to guess or advise...You handle this one ! You are the Dr. here hehe.
    It may positively affect thyroid output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    If you were megadosing iodine, suppression is possible.
    t.
    It was 500mcg usually with dinner. I avoided iodized salt during this time and was on keto diet
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    Cold fingers and toes and nose- all signs of hypo thyroid?
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    Can you guys cite studies proving the effectiveness of TTA or raspberry ketones?
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    Currently dosing tta one cap in AM on empty stomach. I follow IF so my next dose comes later About 8 hours

    30 min pre second meal..

    Is the morning dose pointless? Should it only be dosed pre meal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brucega
    We have Natural efx out and it is a huge seller with one of our national retail chains. It has an appetite suppressant and mood enhancer but is stim free. We also have 7 keto Dhea in it as well which has a huge following. You could take this product year round and it will not hit your receptors. If you have any other questions please let me know. You can use a coupon code of fit10 and get 10% off of on Nutraplanet.com. It is a great deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    I'm looking forward to trying this out soon
    same here. great minds think alike it seems
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Cold fingers and toes and nose- all signs of hypo thyroid?
    Or you have poor circulation. Or it's cold and you're standing outside.

    Quote Originally Posted by DatRep View Post
    Can you guys cite studies proving the effectiveness of TTA or raspberry ketones?
    Don't be lazy, look it up. You can start here: http://scholar.google.com/
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