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  1.  09-19-2012  06:25 PM
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    Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Technically RKs also have a tiny stim effect, yet both are negligible IMO , and at the price they are at...I would say it can only get better by adding:

    SNS TTA-500
    I agree on the bolded especially at the higher doses some of us use


    For one for TTA500 cant be beat(price and results)

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    Originally Posted by GENOMYX
    Decimate was created just for this purpose. Awesome stim free product and can be stacked with other stim products. Just saying
    Yes I have seen it and looks great. Planned on using at some point, but now that I cantuse t2, decimate just got bumped up the list
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    Thanks so that's a no lol!
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    Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    I agree on the bolded especially at the higher doses some of us use


    For one for TTA500 cant be beat(price and results)
    Agreed.

    And how much are you dosing...good God...did Coop get you on his Mega-dosing ideas for certain supps?
    Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Yes I have seen it and looks great. Planned on using at some point, but now that I cantuse t2, decimate just got bumped up the list
    Forskolin and Rawolscine is also off your list Cam. Get your tests done first.
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    Originally Posted by vicesoldier

    Why not add some double D's into the mix and add DCP to deciMATE and make it a killer non stim fat stack
    or SlinSane v2?
    Just a thought.
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    Originally Posted by Celorza

    Jay I had explained it to you in a post already...check out the promo I am running...I summarize it there too...

    Deflation! How long has this Balloon Resisted it? SNS TTA Promo!
    Oh my bad,i post so much i forget... Sorry bud

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    Originally Posted by Celorza
    Agreed.


    Forskolin and Rawolscine is also off your list Cam. Get your tests done first.
    Fock forgot it had forskolin. Jesus .
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    Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    or SlinSane v2?
    Just a thought.
    Also a possibility
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    Can taking a product like shift cause adverse affects if I have low t3 and tsh. Could it lower it further?
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    Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Can taking a product like shift cause adverse affects if I have low t3 and tsh. Could it lower it further?
    Yes...

    And forskolin is just fine for you, not sure why it wouldn't be?
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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Yes...

    And forskolin is just fine for you, not sure why it wouldn't be?
    Alright. So I will remove all plans To use shift.

    I remember when I took kelp with iodine, I held weight n was extra soft..When I dropped it, I seemed to lean out noticeably.. I'm speculating that anything that's supposed to speed up thyroid/metabolism is actually having the reverse affect in me... Is this possible?
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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Yes...

    And forskolin is just fine for you, not sure why it wouldn't be?
    Hm it has hormonal interactions upon a longer dosing time span doesn't it Coop? Just wondering if he should dose any kind of supplements without his study...but I guess this it too much for me to guess or advise...You handle this one ! You are the Dr. here hehe.
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    Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Alright. So I will remove all plans To use shift.

    I remember when I took kelp with iodine, I held weight n was extra soft..When I dropped it, I seemed to lean out noticeably.. I'm speculating that anything that's supposed to speed up thyroid/metabolism is actually having the reverse affect in me... Is this possible?
    If you were megadosing iodine, suppression is possible.

    Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Hm it has hormonal interactions upon a longer dosing time span doesn't it Coop? Just wondering if he should dose any kind of supplements without his study...but I guess this it too much for me to guess or advise...You handle this one ! You are the Dr. here hehe.
    It may positively affect thyroid output.
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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    If you were megadosing iodine, suppression is possible.
    t.
    It was 500mcg usually with dinner. I avoided iodized salt during this time and was on keto diet
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    Cold fingers and toes and nose- all signs of hypo thyroid?
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    Can you guys cite studies proving the effectiveness of TTA or raspberry ketones?

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    Currently dosing tta one cap in AM on empty stomach. I follow IF so my next dose comes later About 8 hours

    30 min pre second meal..

    Is the morning dose pointless? Should it only be dosed pre meal?
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    Originally Posted by Brucega
    We have Natural efx out and it is a huge seller with one of our national retail chains. It has an appetite suppressant and mood enhancer but is stim free. We also have 7 keto Dhea in it as well which has a huge following. You could take this product year round and it will not hit your receptors. If you have any other questions please let me know. You can use a coupon code of fit10 and get 10% off of on Nutraplanet.com. It is a great deal.
    I'm looking forward to trying this out soon

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    Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    I'm looking forward to trying this out soon
    same here. great minds think alike it seems

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    Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Cold fingers and toes and nose- all signs of hypo thyroid?
    Or you have poor circulation. Or it's cold and you're standing outside.

    Originally Posted by DatRep View Post
    Can you guys cite studies proving the effectiveness of TTA or raspberry ketones?
    Don't be lazy, look it up. You can start here: http://scholar.google.com/
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