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  1.  09-18-2012  07:14 AM
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    Angry Severe Insomnia HELP!!!!!


    So I am currently on full dose 48mg MethylPrednisolone (Equal to 60mg Prednisone) to treat a relapse from an autoimmune kidney disease I suffer from. This s*** is like crack!! I can't F***ing sleep for the life of me. I'm lucky if I fall asleep at 4 AM. Staying asleep is no problem, but falling asleep is nearly impossible. Last night I never fell asleep period! Its 8 AM and I'm still awake from the day before. I've tried everything, Benedryl (Sometimes works), supplements (don't work), herbal stuff (doesn't work), even strong herbs like mega dose Kava, nothing. Can you guys suggest something? Anything? That might work for me. I don't drink coffee, I don't drink tea, I don't take any diet pills aside from Green Coffee Extract, which has a minimal amount of caffeine. So really the only stimulant I have, the entire day is my 1 lone scoop of Jack3d Micro, the new stuff with no DMAA. Say the word and I will get on amazon right now and buy it! I'm about 1 step from becoming a stoner or trying opiates because I am just so desperate to get rid of this problem.



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    To be quite honest, this is probably something you need to talk to your doctor about.
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    Originally Posted by tattoopierced1 View Post
    To be quite honest, this is probably something you need to talk to your doctor about.
    He'll probably just give me 10mg of Ambien and tell me to be on my way. That's my guess

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    Some natty things to look into would be.

    Inositol
    5-htp
    Melatonin
    And valerian root.
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    Gaba???

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    Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    So I am currently on full dose 48mg MethylPrednisolone (Equal to 60mg Prednisone) to treat a relapse from an autoimmune kidney disease I suffer from. This s*** is like crack!! I can't F***ing sleep for the life of me. I'm lucky if I fall asleep at 4 AM. Staying asleep is no problem, but falling asleep is nearly impossible. Last night I never fell asleep period! Its 8 AM and I'm still awake from the day before. I've tried everything, Benedryl (Sometimes works), supplements (don't work), herbal stuff (doesn't work), even strong herbs like mega dose Kava, nothing. Can you guys suggest something? Anything? That might work for me. I don't drink coffee, I don't drink tea, I don't take any diet pills aside from Green Coffee Extract, which has a minimal amount of caffeine. So really the only stimulant I have, the entire day is my 1 lone scoop of Jack3d Micro, the new stuff with no DMAA. Say the word and I will get on amazon right now and buy it! I'm about 1 step from becoming a stoner or trying opiates because I am just so desperate to get rid of this problem.

    It blows my mind the people that say I'm on such and such prescribed medicine and then ask on a supplement forum about stuff.. Ask the Dr. who prescribed you the medicine! Also remember when taking the meds and supplements to watch out for interactions. EX. some supplements will delay the absorption of prescription meds. Another thing if you are having sleep problems lay off the jack3d, if you have infomnia then taking a stim is not a bright move.

    Call your dr. and lay off the stims.
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    Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    He'll probably just give me 10mg of Ambien and tell me to be on my way. That's my guess
    Your guess may be right, but you should still tell him. Just to be safe.
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    Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Gaba???
    've never tried Gaba plain, there used to be some Gaba in my old preworkout, and I wonder if that's why I never had trouble sleeping after taking it, hmm. What do you think of Gaba, L tryptophan and 5-htp stacked.

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    Originally Posted by Buffspartan

    've never tried Gaba plain, there used to be some Gaba in my old preworkout, and I wonder if that's why I never had trouble sleeping after taking it, hmm. What do you think of Gaba, L tryptophan and 5-htp stacked.
    I would also try only eating during sunlight hours to see if that helps your body fall back into its normal circadian rhythm

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    Don't bother stacking 5-HTP with Tryptophan, 5-htp will suffice for the effects you want. It sounds like you're experiencing severe anxiety from this, you do need to speak to your doctor about this. 10mg of ambien short term won't be bad at all, why would you avoid it? Not that there's a problem with using OTC alternatives, but they almost certainly won't be as effective.
    From the sounds of it, you're fairly likely to superdose whatever you end up getting, if you stayed within the recommended dosages I'd recommend phenibut. Again this is short term, as either this is a short term treatment for your AI disease; or your doctor needs to get his act together and figure out a better plan for you.

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    Yeah, my neph has a habit of not monitoring me very well, like when he put me on hGH for steroid induced short stature and I ended up getting slight acromagaly!! Yeah, that was good. Luckily my orthopedic doc and endocrinologist caught it early enough where it didn't cause any permanent damage, but it easily could have. I'm probably just gonna have my GP handle it, because I don't think my neph will do anything. Kava has been working well though as it has begun to kick in, so maybe I'll just stick with that for now

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    Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    So I am currently on full dose 48mg MethylPrednisolone (Equal to 60mg Prednisone) to treat a relapse from an autoimmune kidney disease I suffer from. This s*** is like crack!! I can't F***ing sleep for the life of me. I'm lucky if I fall asleep at 4 AM. Staying asleep is no problem, but falling asleep is nearly impossible. Last night I never fell asleep period! Its 8 AM and I'm still awake from the day before. I've tried everything, Benedryl (Sometimes works), supplements (don't work), herbal stuff (doesn't work), even strong herbs like mega dose Kava, nothing. Can you guys suggest something? Anything? That might work for me. I don't drink coffee, I don't drink tea, I don't take any diet pills aside from Green Coffee Extract, which has a minimal amount of caffeine. So really the only stimulant I have, the entire day is my 1 lone scoop of Jack3d Micro, the new stuff with no DMAA. Say the word and I will get on amazon right now and buy it! I'm about 1 step from becoming a stoner or trying opiates because I am just so desperate to get rid of this problem.

    Phenibut helps me with anxiety and helps me sleep. I will say that it is a supplement that you can't take every day, though. You would probably want to consult with your MD before you use it, too.

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    Originally Posted by D2footballjrc View Post
    It blows my mind the people that say I'm on such and such prescribed medicine and then ask on a supplement forum about stuff.. Ask the Dr. who prescribed you the medicine! Also remember when taking the meds and supplements to watch out for interactions. EX. some supplements will delay the absorption of prescription meds. Another thing if you are having sleep problems lay off the jack3d, if you have infomnia then taking a stim is not a bright move.

    Call your dr. and lay off the stims.
    Yeah it blows my mind also, people coming on a bodybuilding and supplement site for medical advice.

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    To treat the symptoms, but not the underlying cause - you can try:

    Inositol
    5-htp
    Melatonin
    Gaba
    DMAE
    Pregnenolone
    OTC Sleep Aid - Costco sells one very inexpensively.
    1-carboxy
    ZMA - may or may not help

    Good luck.

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    Yeah I agree with gaba, really cheap to try! When I had insomnia my doc put me on ambien cr never woke up groggy... Did some messed up **** a few times though

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    Why not just get the Ambien? Targets GABA receptor lol
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    Originally Posted by StephenGarcia View Post
    Why not just get the Ambien? Targets GABA receptor lol
    Too lazy to go to the doctor lol

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    Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    Too lazy to go to the doctor lol
    you're up all day and night 24 hours anyway, may as well make efficient use of your time and fit in a doctors appointment

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    Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    you're up all day and night 24 hours anyway, may as well make efficient use of your time and fit in a doctors appointment
    Doctor's office doesn't allow sexting. That could pose a problem in my everyday life!

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    Originally Posted by Buffspartan View Post
    Doctor's office doesn't allow sexting. That could pose a problem in my everyday life!
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