Cissus Help

[oakmuscle]

I have a chronic back injury. Its most likely a combo of muscle tears, knots, rib head cartilidge tearing, trigger points. I think its mainly a rib head cartilidge/tendon and trigger point issue atm. Anyway I have not lifted in months. Im trying to help with healing as much as I can.

Im taking Glucosamine, MSM and Chondroiton as well as Primaforce Bulk Cissus.

Im reading alot of the anabolic properties of cissus. My question is, is it a complete waste to take this when not lifting? Im using it for its healing properties but when I do get back to the gym I need every advantage I can get. Is this something that is going to lower my natural test levels when im off it? If not im contemplating mega dosing for recovery.

[mr.cooper69]

Cissus is not anabolic in skeletal muscle tissue. It is anabolic in BONE. It won't affect testosterone. Megadosing primaforce cissus may not be a good idea for recovery since it is standardized to 40% ketosterones (glucocorticoid antagonist)

[criticalbench]

I dont think it matters whether you are lifting or not for its injury recovery purposes. I would never consider cissus anabolic though.

[Brucega]

It is not a complete waste to take a joint formula and not be lifting. Many people take them for every day relief. I saw what you brought up that you were taking and I would take a look at Flexible. We have everything that you are taking now along with Halyronic Acid. It is our opinion that this gives a better complete joint support. There are several reviews on the product if you google it also.

Thanks

I have a chronic back injury. Its most likely a combo of muscle tears, knots, rib head cartilidge tearing, trigger points. I think its mainly a rib head cartilidge/tendon and trigger point issue atm. Anyway I have not lifted in months. Im trying to help with healing as much as I can.

Im taking Glucosamine, MSM and Chondroiton as well as Primaforce Bulk Cissus.

Im reading alot of the anabolic properties of cissus. My question is, is it a complete waste to take this when not lifting? Im using it for its healing properties but when I do get back to the gym I need every advantage I can get. Is this something that is going to lower my natural test levels when im off it? If not im contemplating mega dosing for recovery.

[oakmuscle]

Cissus is not anabolic in skeletal muscle tissue. It is anabolic in BONE. It won't affect testosterone. Megadosing primaforce cissus may not be a good idea for recovery since it is standardized to 40% ketosterones (glucocorticoid antagonist)

Anabolic in Bone. Would it in anyway cause jaw growth/forhead growth. Lol my jaw/head is big enough thats the reason I want to get huge. Bone growth is the last thing id ever want. Why ill never take HGH. Why is megadosing not a good idea for recovery? Also is it a good idea for my condition anyway?

[mr.cooper69]

Anabolic in Bone. Would it in anyway cause jaw growth/forhead growth. Lol my jaw/head is big enough thats the reason I want to get huge. Bone growth is the last thing id ever want. Why ill never take HGH. Why is megadosing not a good idea for recovery? Also is it a good idea for my condition anyway?

No, it will not cause tumor-like growth lol, it will only repair and renew bone tissue at a faster rate. it sounds fine for your condition, but I don't see the point in megadosing

[domore]

No, it will not cause tumor-like growth lol, it will only repair and renew bone tissue at a faster rate. it sounds fine for your condition, but I don't see the point in megadosing

What do you think is the optimal time to begin cissus after surgery? I am about two and a half weeks out from surgery. I'm still non-weight bearing for another two and a half weeks, though. I had a conversation with Dewey and he advised about two weeks out.

[mr.cooper69]

What do you think is the optimal time to begin cissus after surgery? I am about two and a half weeks out from surgery. I'm still non-weight bearing for another two and a half weeks, though. I had a conversation with Dewey and he advised about two weeks out.

Two weeks is the general physician's recommendation for most supplements

[hsk]

Hey Coop, do you think cissus can be used to help someone with osteoporosis (bone thinning)? I have a relative who has been diagnosed with early stages of this and they have been looking for something natural that might prevent or slow down the bone thinning.

[mr.cooper69]

Hey Coop, do you think cissus can be used to help someone with osteoporosis (bone thinning)? I have a relative who has been diagnosed with early stages of this and they have been looking for something natural that might prevent or slow down the bone thinning.

Yes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14611887
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20584502

[hsk]

Yes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14611887
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20584502

Thanks Coop! What kind of dosage would be a good start for a 62 year old female?

[mr.cooper69]

Thanks Coop! What kind of dosage would be a good start for a 62 year old female?

I'd start with 3g

[kingjameskjf]

I'd start with 3g

That's how I'm using mine right now and it helps, especially my crappy knees after playing basketball. I've notice that they're not as sore.

[fightbackhxc]

That's how I'm using mine right now and it helps, especially my crappy knees after playing basketball. I've notice that they're not as sore.

Definitely helping my shoulders.