primaforce creatinol-o-phosphate dosage???

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by dsohei
    Primaforce sent me an email I will paste here later tonite
    Interested to see what they say


  2. me too
    All posts by mattys4 are the result of a very creative imagination and should not be considered advice nor taken seriously
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by dsohei View Post
    Primaforce sent me an email I will paste here later tonite

    Eager to see what they have to say.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by dsohei View Post
    Primaforce sent me an email I will paste here later tonite
    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa View Post
    Interested to see what they say
    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    It's the density of the powder that dictates the serving volume. Nothing to do with the size of the scoop.
    ^^^^^Thats probably what they will say

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by mattys4 View Post
    me too

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  6. haha
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  7. this is what they say:
    "Thank you for contacting us with your question Darius. We have thoroughly investigated your email to find a definitive answer. There was error in the label creation process. The material we use is 99.75% pure Creatinol-o-Phosphate, above the industry standard. As with all Primaforce bulk powders there are no fillers so the product you have is 99.75% pure COP. The label should have listed 2g per serving, there are approximately 500mg per scoop if filled to the line. The person who signed off on that label is no longer with us so I can only assume he read 500mg per scoop rather than per serving. We will be making the necessary changes to our label on the next run of this product! We greatly appreciate you bringing this to our attention and would like to send you a bottle of COP free as a way of showing this appreciation. I look forward to hearing back from you and hope you are having a great day!"

    anyone care to translate? lol

  8. Quote Originally Posted by dsohei View Post
    this is what they say:
    "Thank you for contacting us with your question Darius. We have thoroughly investigated your email to find a definitive answer. There was error in the label creation process. The material we use is 99.75% pure Creatinol-o-Phosphate, above the industry standard. As with all Primaforce bulk powders there are no fillers so the product you have is 99.75% pure COP. The label should have listed 2g per serving, there are approximately 500mg per scoop if filled to the line. The person who signed off on that label is no longer with us so I can only assume he read 500mg per scoop rather than per serving. We will be making the necessary changes to our label on the next run of this product! We greatly appreciate you bringing this to our attention and would like to send you a bottle of COP free as a way of showing this appreciation. I look forward to hearing back from you and hope you are having a great day!"

    anyone care to translate? lol
    looks good to me. thats what i thought 4 scoops = 2g COP
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by dsohei
    this is what they say:
    "Thank you for contacting us with your question Darius. We have thoroughly investigated your email to find a definitive answer. There was error in the label creation process. The material we use is 99.75% pure Creatinol-o-Phosphate, above the industry standard. As with all Primaforce bulk powders there are no fillers so the product you have is 99.75% pure COP. The label should have listed 2g per serving, there are approximately 500mg per scoop if filled to the line. The person who signed off on that label is no longer with us so I can only assume he read 500mg per scoop rather than per serving. We will be making the necessary changes to our label on the next run of this product! We greatly appreciate you bringing this to our attention and would like to send you a bottle of COP free as a way of showing this appreciation. I look forward to hearing back from you and hope you are having a great day!"

    anyone care to translate? lol
    According to the email:
    500mg per scoop
    4 scoops per 2g serving
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    According to the email:
    500mg per scoop
    4 scoops per 2g serving
    funny thing: 1 full scoop weighs 1 gram, so i guess its better to weigh it out than trust the scoop as density can be higher than they assume.

  11. i can't believe this much discussion went into something so dumb.

    why would anyone use scoopers with digital scales available?

    why in the world would anyone measure milligrams with a scooper?

    d=m/v

    i guess if you're not accustomed to buying powders, you don't realize how much volume varies based on density
    For me, the action IS the juice.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by dsohei View Post
    funny thing: 1 full scoop weighs 1 gram, so i guess its better to weigh it out than trust the scoop as density can be higher than they assume.

    They did say "filled to the line" so maybe there is a line inside the scoop that would be the 500mg mark. Sounds like the guy who made the labels just screwed up and he is gone now so they took care of it. Also they offered to send you a free tub which was really nice of them. Great customer service right there. That is only one of the many reasons I love a trust the primaforce brand.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone

    They did say "filled to the line" so maybe there is a line inside the scoop that would be the 500mg mark. Sounds like the guy who made the labels just screwed up and he is gone now so they took care of it. Also they offered to send you a free tub which was really nice of them. Great customer service right there. That is only one of the many reasons I love a trust the primaforce brand.
    I'm surprised such a large company could make a basic mistake like that...

  14. Quote Originally Posted by dsohei

    funny thing: 1 full scoop weighs 1 gram, so i guess its better to weigh it out than trust the scoop as density can be higher than they assume.
    Check inside the scoop for a line mid-way up. According to the email, there should be one. That line is the fill line.
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    Revolutionizing Sports Nutrition, One Product At A Time
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by dsohei View Post
    funny thing: 1 full scoop weighs 1 gram, so i guess its better to weigh it out than trust the scoop as density can be higher than they assume.
    That's why they say approximately 500mg per scoop if filled to the line, that appears to be the same size as the scooper on the alcar tub which is 500mg
    “Work hard and become a leader; be lazy and never succeed. (Proverbs 12:24)”

  16. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    They did say "filled to the line" so maybe there is a line inside the scoop that would be the 500mg mark. Sounds like the guy who made the labels just screwed up and he is gone now so they took care of it. Also they offered to send you a free tub which was really nice of them. Great customer service right there. That is only one of the many reasons I love a trust the primaforce brand.

    im pretty sure their offer of a free bottle is lip service. if i ever receive such a gift i will post it here.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc

    Got it from my grandparents. I what grandparents aren't trustworthy?
    Dude,i wouldnt trust them!!!

  18. Any of you COP users ever try PLCAR?

    Im loving the stuff for the same purported benefits one should realize on COP
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  19. The hell is plcar

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Any of you COP users ever try PLCAR?

    Im loving the stuff for the same purported benefits one should realize on COP
    PLCAR is very nice but it works on a very different system than COP

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Any of you COP users ever try PLCAR?

    Im loving the stuff for the same purported benefits one should realize on COP
    PLCAR is greatly overlooked, but its been a something ive mentioned quite a few times before. It stacks perfectly with MCC, COP, BA, and other staples.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by soontobbeast View Post
    i can't believe this much discussion went into something so dumb.

    why would anyone use scoopers with digital scales available?

    why in the world would anyone measure milligrams with a scooper?

    d=m/v

    i guess if you're not accustomed to buying powders, you don't realize how much volume varies based on density
    HAHA!!! Thank god someone else said it. It doesn't take rocket science to deduce that at a 2g serving size, being 4 scoops, that it's 500mg per scoop "when filled to the line of course". I'm not saying the label wasn't confusing, b/c it sure as hell was, but my goodness folks....you'd think they delivered you baking soda based on this reaction...


    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa View Post
    I'm surprised such a large company could make a basic mistake like that...
    It happens....If I recall correctly even Primordial Performance had their Toco 8 labeled incorrectly for a short period. Please anyone feel free to correct that statement if I'm wrong and I'll edit my post. It can happen from batch to batch, when labels change, when ingredients change. It sucks but it's not unheard of.


    Quote Originally Posted by dsohei View Post
    im pretty sure their offer of a free bottle is lip service. if i ever receive such a gift i will post it here.
    Give them a chance to redeem themselves there first slick. Awfully negative for receiving an email that, even though it didn't seem like you followed it well, addressed your concern pretty thoroughly. I'd give it 10 business days and then if you still don't have. Unleash the Kraken...

  23. I really could care less about the free bottle since I have the old bottle plus the sns caps. It took them weeks to respond to my initial query, so I posted here, and then in hindsight jags say "oh I knew that and you shoulda figgered it out".

  24. Quote Originally Posted by dsohei View Post
    I really could care less about the free bottle since I have the old bottle plus the sns caps. It took them weeks to respond to my initial query, so I posted here, and then in hindsight jags say "oh I knew that and you shoulda figgered it out".

    Jags? You from Pittsburgh? Just asking b/c I am....never heard anyone outside of the Burgh use that saying. Anyway...I just found this thread yesterday and commented. All I had to do was look at the picture of the label to deduce what was going on. Not trying to be a d*ck, just sayin....

    Don't really appreciate being called a "Jag" (unless it means something cool that I don't even know about yet) for simply replying to a few posts. As I said, calm down, your problem has been fixed. Go on enjoying your COP.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by dsohei View Post
    im pretty sure their offer of a free bottle is lip service. if i ever receive such a gift i will post it here.
    Why so hostile? The company seems to be addressing your problem and even offered you a bottle free of charge. I guess you can't please everyone though...
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