Pre workouts and Pounding heart

[Tonycfh]

A while ago i woke at night and my heart was pounding....not fast just hard and the next morning i would be short of breath and really aware of my heart!then it would go away for a week or so and then come back!For the last 2 days my heart has been kind of pounding and i'm having ****ty sleep....i lifted today without the pre and heart still pounding!i don't think it's anxiety i hope its the caffeine but why only recently has this been happening?Does caffeine build up over time or something?Has anyone else experienced this?

 

[Jay888999]

Sounds like a possible panic attack or/and You may be overly sensitive to stims.There are a few really good pre work out non stim supplements out there.Maybe look into them or you can just buy a few.individual thinhs and take them pre workout,there are many options.

This is your health man. stim free supps are just as good as stim supps,as long as your diet is good,your eating throughout the day no reason you cant and shoukdnt have a good workout.

Dont become reliant in pre workouts,i didnt use any for many years and just relied on diet,proper foods,proper training routines, multi,whey,fish oil and creatine and did very well.

While pre workouts are good for those days when your down,but in general weight lifting is more a mental thing.

Hope this helps.Good luck.

 

[Tonycfh]

Sounds like a possible panic attack..You may be overly sensitive to stims.There are a few really good pre work out non stim supplements out there.Maybe look into them.This is your health man. stim free supps are just as good as stim supps,as long as your diet is good,your eating throughout the day no reason you cant have a good workout.

Dont become reliant in pre workouts,i did use any for many years and just relied on diet,proper foods,proper training routines multi,whey and creatine and did very well.

While pre workouts are good for those days when your down,but in general weight lifting is more a mental thing.

Hope this helps.Good luck.

Yes i agree it's mostly mental because i had a pretty good workout today without it.Just wish my heart would go back to normal....this is a pretty weird feeling.I've been taking pwo for months but it's only now this is happening.

 

[D2footballjrc]

I'd lay off the stims, and maybe make a Dr. appointment just in case man. It dose sound like a panic attack. Avoid the pre's and caffeine for a bit.

 

[Clickster]

Yes i agree it's mostly mental because i had a pretty good workout today without it.Just wish my heart would go back to normal....this is a pretty weird feeling.I've been taking pwo for months but it's only now this is happening.

This used to happen to me back when I was addicted to energy drinks. I would try to take a full month stim-free. I know that sounds awful; but it is nice to reset yourself. This is what I did and now a preworkout with stims doesn't bother me. I just don't use anything else with caffeine anymore.

My advice would be to give yourself some time off stims and try to relax(mentally) for awhile.

 

[Tonycfh]

Yeah from today i'm cutting all caffeine for a month!After that maybe i'll just have a cup of coffe pre workout if i need it!

 

[D2footballjrc]

Yeah from today i'm cutting all caffeine for a month!After that maybe i'll just have a cup of coffe pre workout if i need it!

Best non-stim preworkout...

I'm being 100% serious.

 

[Tonycfh]

Best non-stim preworkout...





I have a big bowl of oats about 2 hours before i lift everyday!I hear you man!

 

[mr.cooper69]

Best non-stim preworkout...


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I'm being 100% serious.

I see that and raise you...

 

[D2footballjrc]

I see that and raise you...

Less then $5 vs $39.95, otherwise yes. Also still need it in Pink Lemonade flavor!!!! Sometimes a nice break from supplements can really help people. I love the focus XT line. I'm just not a huge fruit punch flavor fan. I wish it came in a watermelon flavor.

So yes OP Caffeine Free Focus XT is an option as well.

 

[Jay888999]

Best non-stim preworkout...

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I'm being 100% serious.

Slow burning carb for long lasting energy..Oatmeal is my breakfast 75% of the time.. OP along with oatmeal id say add a greek yogurt and a handful mixed nuts,preferably macadamiums (spelling??).

Depending the situation ill have some almonds,wlanuts and a greek yogurt about 45 mins pre workout and im feeling good,OFCOURSEadding oatmeal makea that pre workout meal all the better.Greek yogurt will digest slower as well.

 

[bboyflash]

I've personally had this and all I did was Add in electrolytes, your heart get depleted when using stimulants, which explains the chest pains, add in potassium, calcium, magnesium and your golden, also if you aren't doin cardio I suggest you throw some in there

 

[mr.cooper69]

Less then $5 vs $39.95, otherwise yes. Also still need it in Pink Lemonade flavor!!!! Sometimes a nice break from supplements can really help people. I love the focus XT line. I'm just not a huge fruit punch flavor fan. I wish it came in a watermelon flavor.

So yes OP Caffeine Free Focus XT is an option as well.

Have you had the FP yet? If not, send me your addy for samples. It's barely a FP at all....much, MUCH better.

And yeah, but keep in mind, carbs are not preworkout-specific for glycogen/brain-boosting effects, and may even be counterproductive since insulin can blunt adrenergic hormones/NTs. Conversely, insulin increases vasodilation, so it works both ways.

 

[Tonycfh]

Have you had the FP yet? If not, send me your addy for samples. It's barely a FP at all....much, MUCH better.

And yeah, but keep in mind, carbs are not preworkout-specific for glycogen/brain-boosting effects, and may even be counterproductive since insulin can blunt adrenergic hormones/NTs. Conversely, insulin increases vasodilation, so it works both ways.

Is the fp the pre workout?!If so i haven't tried it.I would love a free sample for when i'm done cycling off of stims if thats what you're asking?Also, do stim free PWO's give you a good boost....i mean it doesn't have caffeine so how does that work?!

 

[Jay888999]

Is the fp the pre workout?!If so i haven't tried it.I would love a free sample for when i'm done cycling off of stims if thats what you're asking?Also, do stim free PWO's give you a good boost....i mean it doesn't have caffeine so how does that work?!

If stim free pre workouts didnt work why would ppl make them and why would ppl take them????

 

[Tonycfh]

If stim free pre workouts didnt work why would ppl make them and why would ppl take them????

i know they obviously work, so why would someone go for the stims as apose to stim free?i just mean is it the same kind of buzz?there must be some difference?

 

[Jay888999]

i know they obviously work, so why would someone go for the stims as apose to stim free?i just mean is it the same kind of buzz?there must be some difference?

Maybe becUse of the eeasons u stated....stim sensitive bro...or in my case caffeine is not good for my gut.

Well minus caffeine non stim products cintain things that open blood vessels,allowin for my oxygen better pumps and endurance or uses fat as energy or delay muscle fatigue etc...someone like cooper will give u a damn near perfect explanation

 

[Tonycfh]

Maybe becUse of the eeasons u stated....stim sensitive bro...or in my case caffeine is not good for my gut

i don't even think my supp store has stim free?not sure though.What one's would you reccomend?

 

[Jay888999]

i don't even think my supp store has stim free?not sure though.What one's would you reccomend?

U can pick up a few supps yourself or buy premade..Focus XT caff free seems to be your best best..or you can go pick up some bulk or pills or aome of each of :

Beta Alanine or Taurine,L-Carnitine Tartrate,Agmatime/Citrulline Malate,Creatine Monohydrate and DAA..simple cost effecient as well.

I use Taurine,Creapure,L Carnitine Fumerate,DAA (@ THE MOMENT 1 PILL D POL) as my preworkout...i feel great man

 

[Tonycfh]

U can pick up a few supps yourself or buy premade..Focus XT caff free seems to be your best best..or you can go pick up some bulk or pills or aome of each of :

Beta Alanine or Taurine,L-Carnitine Tartrate,Agmatime/Citrulline Malate,Creatine Monohydrate and DAA..simple cost effecient as well.

I use Taurine,Creapure,L Carnitine Fumerate,DAA (@ THE MOMENT 1 PILL D POL) as my preworkout...i feel great man

Thank's for the help man!

 

[monstermash]

Stim free pre's

MAN Sports- Body Octane
Omega Sports- Ultima
MST- Ragnarok Ultra (caff free)
iForce- Hemavol

 

[Jay888999]

Thank's for the help man!

Welcome bud

 

[Celorza]

U can pick up a few supps yourself or buy premade..Focus XT caff free seems to be your best best..or you can go pick up some bulk or pills or aome of each of :

Beta Alanine or Taurine,L-Carnitine Tartrate,Agmatime/Citrulline Malate,Creatine Monohydrate and DAA..simple cost effecient as well.

I use Taurine,Creapure,L Carnitine Fumerate,DAA (@ THE MOMENT 1 PILL D POL) as my preworkout...i feel great man

Out of all that only 10% is right...

Taurine should not be dosed along with Beta alanine since BA will inhibit its absorption rates. And both are NOT Pre-Workout Supplements.

Creatine Monohydrate is not a Pre-workout supplement, it can be taken anytime of the day, 3-5g a day...

DAA is not a Pre-Workout Supplement either, it is a natural test booster, 3g at any given time of the day is fine.

So you are basically left with Citrulline Malate+Agmatine+LCLT , that is a good combo right there. When I say that it is not a pre-workout supplement/ingredient I mean that it does not provide any immediate reaction needed for the upcoming (in the next 30 minutes or so) workout. And most likely they are just doses that can be at any time of the day to keep a saturation point or a hormonal reaction (DAA, which is also by NMDAR agonism...which requires also a saturation point).

Stim free pre's

MAN Sports- Body Octane
Omega Sports- Ultima
MST- Ragnarok Ultra (caff free)
iForce- Hemavol

This + Caffeine Free Focus XT is actual real advice.

 

[Tonycfh]

Out of all that only 10% is right...

Taurine should not be dosed along with Beta alanine since BA will inhibit its absorption rates. And both are NOT Pre-Workout Supplements.

Creatine Monohydrate is not a Pre-workout supplement, it can be taken anytime of the day, 3-5g a day...

DAA is not a Pre-Workout Supplement either, it is a natural test booster, 3g at any given time of the day is fine.

So you are basically left with Citrulline Malate+Agmatine+LCLT , that is a good combo right there. When I say that it is not a pre-workout supplement/ingredient I mean that it does not provide any immediate reaction needed for the upcoming (in the next 30 minutes or so) workout. And most likely they are just doses that can be at any time of the day to keep a saturation point or a hormonal reaction (DAA, which is also by NMDAR agonism...which requires also a saturation point).

This + Caffeine Free Focus XT is actual real advice.

Yeah, think i'll try the focus XT!

 

[Celorza]

Yeah, think i'll try the focus XT!

Let me know how it treats you please . If you have any other questions about supplementation or how to make a real Stim Free Pre-workout Home-Made concoction let me know. Caffeine Free Focus-XT is just amazing by itself, however if you want something different we carry a variety of the usual Pre-Workout Staples that will help your performance in the gym given a proper diet and rest.

If you need anything , just PM me and let me know

 

[Tonycfh]

Let me know how it treats you please . If you have any other questions about supplementation or how to make a real Stim Free Pre-workout Home-Made concoction let me know. Caffeine Free Focus-XT is just amazing by itself, however if you want something different we carry a variety of the usual Pre-Workout Staples that will help your performance in the gym given a proper diet and rest.

If you need anything , just PM me and let me know

No problem man i'll let you know how it treats me!

 

[D2footballjrc]

i don't even think my supp store has stim free?not sure though.What one's would you reccomend?

Best Stim Free Stacks:

Ultima + Hemavol
Ultima + Agmatine
Ultima + Anabolic Ignite + Agmatine
Ultima + Agmatine
Anabolic Ignite + Agmatine
Anabolic Ignite + Hemavol
Anabolic Ignite + Ultima
Ultima + Hemavol + Pumpbol = ultimate stack.

 

[3clipseGT]

Another good stim free pre-workout is AX Ultra Reps.

 

[Celorza]

Best Stim Free Stacks:

Ultima + Hemavol
Ultima + Agmatine
Ultima + Anabolic Ignite + Agmatine
Ultima + Agmatine
Anabolic Ignite + Agmatine
Anabolic Ignite + Hemavol
Anabolic Ignite + Ultima
Ultima + Hemavol + Pumpbol = ultimate stack.

I find this offensive, no CF FXT Mentions here:

CF FXT + Citrulline Malate + Agmatine + ArA + LCLT + GMS + COP = WIN! (all properly dosed that is)

CF FXT + Citrulline Malate + COP +Agmatine = still good win! !

CF FXT + Extra ALCAR + Piracetam = Pass any test any day.

 

[D2footballjrc]

I find this offensive, no CF FXT Mentions here:

CF FXT + Citrulline Malate + Agmatine + ArA + LCLT + GMS + COP = WIN! (all properly dosed that is)

CF FXT + Citrulline Malate + COP +Agmatine = still good win! !

CF FXT + Extra ALCAR + Piracetam = Pass any test any day.

I don't recommend products I haven't tried enough to give an honest review opinion of. It may be a great product, I just don't personally have a lot of experience with it yet.

I will say.. I tried the Ultima + Hemavol + Pumpbol stack and was blown away. It's just not easy on the pocket book. Like $100 in supplements for 30 servings. Add in the Pumpbol is impossible to find, and that I won't give that company another dime of my money straight up after the DAA patent cash grab.

 

[Celorza]

I don't recommend products I haven't tried enough to give an honest review opinion of. It may be a great product, I just don't personally have a lot of experience with it yet.

I will say.. I tried the Ultima + Hemavol + Pumpbol stack and was blown away. It's just not easy on the pocket book. Like $100 in supplements for 30 servings. Add in the Pumpbol is impossible to find, and that I won't give that company another dime of my money straight up after the DAA patent cash grab.

Never had Pumpbol or even heard of it actually, would appreciate some ingredient post up please. About Ultima and Hemavol, having had that Wallet-leaning stack I must say it is pretty sweet when going stim free OR when you are using 3 doses of ECY stack and can't possible add more stims (which was my case) and I enjoyed it so much!

 

[D2footballjrc]

Never had Pumpbol or even heard of it actually, would appreciate some ingredient post up please. About Ultima and Hemavol, having had that Wallet-leaning stack I must say it is pretty sweet when going stim free OR when you are using 3 doses of ECY stack and can't possible add more stims (which was my case) and I enjoyed it so much!

Pumpbol is by thermolife the company that patents big name ingredients. (Certain forms of BCAA's and DAA)

Here is it's supplement facts: They have the image blocked.. it's at:
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/thermolife/pump-bol-42-servings.html

Ultima is at Nutra Planet:
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/omega-sports/ultima-40-servings.html

Hemavol is at Nutra Planet:
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/iforce-nutrition/hemavol-32-servings.html?sel=4285

 

[PuZo]

Loving all the love for Hemavol! Thanks guys!