Hawthorn berry or Hawthorn berry extract for lowering BP?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Mass Monkey View Post
    Again before I call it quits I'll try celery seed . . but again its still within the high normal range so I'm not totally worried just keeping a eye on it . . and looking for info and info is what I'm getting so again TY!!!
    http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Condit...64_Article.jsp
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    Interestingly enough this AMS product is very potent in Hawthorn Berry Extract (5% Vitexin) as the Vitexin is the flavonoid that is supposed to be responsible for it's CV properties.
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  3. Hmmm? It does look promising. Maybe I'll try that next time over CA.

    Enjoyed the BP article TY if it goes into the 140's or into the 90's then I shall start to rethink my cycle but now I'm wondering and probably won't but I was hoping to bump it up to 100 last 2 weeks );

    And yes my CA is also the extract thus y I started this thread.

    Cheers everyone. Will update soon

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  4. Oh and BTW the HB u listed is exactly what I'm taking along with CA

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  5. Well I was thinking of the only two I've tried....Cycle Assist and AI Life Support. Didn't feel compelled to Google every existing assist product ......but next time I make a bland statement, I'll make sure its correct.

    Feel better? ha ha

  6. Still hungry around 5k calories? Damn....and I thought "I" was a fat person at heart. Looks like I've met my match. heh

  7. Buddy it's totally freaky. I eat and eat and no fat gain. Might do one week of a dirty bulk and see then back down to chicken and fish

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  8. Looking forward to the all I can eat sushi bar in the bedroom this weekend for my anniversary lol!!!!!

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  9. Quote Originally Posted by epstaneman View Post
    Well I was thinking of the only two I've tried....Cycle Assist and AI Life Support. Didn't feel compelled to Google every existing assist product ......but next time I make a bland statement, I'll make sure its correct.

    Feel better? ha ha
    Haha...WTF dude? Google what? All links are directly to NutraPlanet and as a matter of fact I linked both that you said you used and they both have the extract.

    AI Life Support - Hawthorn Berry Extract (2% cratagic acid, 5% flavonoid glycosides)

    Cycle Assist - Hawthorn Berry Extract (Satndardized to 1.8% Vitexin)
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  10. Oh snap! I thought this was my H-Drol log.

    Sorry guys I'm usually not so rude and crude on a serious thred. My bad

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  11. Quote Originally Posted by epstaneman View Post
    ......but next time I make a bland statement, I'll make sure its correct.

    Feel better? ha ha

    Next time you think of making a bland statment put some salt on it - it adds more flavor.
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  12. Ok for myself I know CA is the extract but the Now I thought was the plant not the actual extract.

    So if I miss understood you and the technical stuff I'm sorry thus why I started the thread TY as u have been a great help.

    Now as for Epiman lol, buddy your on your own lol!!!

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  13. Well do I get an E for effort with adding spice with my crude comment.

    Still waiting for epimans rebuke.

    Gosh this work thing gets in the way of AM chatter lol

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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Mass Monkey View Post
    Ok for myself I know CA is the extract but the Now I thought was the plant not the actual extract.

    So if I miss understood you and the technical stuff I'm sorry thus why I started the thread TY as u have been a great help.

    Now as for Epiman lol, buddy your on your own lol!!!

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    One link is to the NOW w/extract and one link is to the NOW w/o extract. Now worries
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  15. Ok everything is crammed in on my phone and I missed the second link.

    Ok I do have just the fruit not the extract by Now

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  16. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    Next time you think of making a bland statment put some salt on it - it adds more flavor.


    Well I'm glad your not funny. Smart AND a sense of humor would have been a double threat. Now I don't feel so threatened. ha ha



    Thanks for the info though about the assist products. Learning new things is always a plus and never a negative.

  17. Almost makes me want to cry lol!!!

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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Mass Monkey View Post
    Almost makes me want to cry lol!!!

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    Go to a damn computer then man ha ha Much bigger screen to look at.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by epstaneman View Post
    Well I'm glad your not funny. Smart AND a sense of humor would have been a double threat. Now I don't feel so threatened. ha ha



    Thanks for the info though about the assist products. Learning new things is always a plus and never a negative.
    Did you learn you don't know what you are taking or what you are talking about?

    Don't feel bad. At least YOU have a sense of humor...
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  20. O: oh oh do we need to get in the octagon ?

    Lol

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  21. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    Did you learn you don't know what you are taking or what you are talking about?

    Don't feel bad. At least YOU have a sense of humor...


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  22. Quote Originally Posted by epstaneman View Post
    All the assist products have HB rather then HB Extract. They both are the same (Hawthorn Berry) and both will take a couple weeks to even begin to have an effect on blood pressure. I'm taking HB and my blood pressure is going slightly lower with each weekly BP reading I'm doing. I get the NOW brand....it's usually the cheapest. Since your already in the middle of a cycle experience high blood pressure, I would do my best to simply avoid stimulants or anything that is stressful on the heart. I also smoke weed everyday so that could be helping me keep low BP. Though not everyone has the same effect on weed....some people it makes paranoid and spikes their BP.







    So how's your cycle going? Never wanted to throw down that kind of money on the Andro series just to 'find out' if they are worth it. I was always interested in the Androlean and Androhard. Info?
    AH is legit, there is really no two ways about that part. I mean it will jack up your DHT no doubt....vascularity and all that good stuff. the same can be said for AL, its 7/11 which is a proven combo....and this delivery system seems to work well with it....I am dosing it at 4 caps per day though for 6 weeks since I was coming off of 6 weeks on prototype 7 and 11 spray....I was doing 30-35 sprays of them, so 4 caps of AL should be the equivalent to that. but yeah, for PH's with little to no sides (safety), and that effectively do what they say (its not hard to do that when you use the correct ingredients with a solid delivery system), they are all great products so far. I'll be using AM2 and 3 and ABv3 within the next 8-12 months so I can't comment on them yet, they are just sitting there waiting to be swallowed But I don't mind spending money on supplements when I'm buying from a reputable company that will dose it properly and is safety conscious.....those aspects are key

  23. BTW I do feel there is an almost immediate effect from HB extract (as in several days), nothing drastic, but some BP lowering....and there is also a cumulative effect which is even more pronounced.

  24. and use the got-damn extract for christ sakes
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