ok, im looking for something that would fit this category, but cant figure out what it would be. I currently use creatine, l-and IP6 always mixed with 23 grams of whey, 12 ounces milk, 25 grams of ; when off a cycle. However, i do not like the bloat creatine gives me at all, and any form of creatine bloats me. No matter how cut i get there is still a layer of water over my abs and have a general smoothed out look. Im looking for a substance that I can take while off cycles (so nothing hormonal), wont raise my metabolism (im an ectomorph), while still providing me with the anti-catabolic effect and mild anabolic effect of creatine. I think BCAA's and are a bunch of BS. So what would you guys recomend to help me bulk with creatine like effects without water retention. Thankyou.