Recovering from Surgery

[Hot]

Epharm joint force been helping alot aftr my knee sutgery

[domore]

Epharm joint force been helping alot aftr my knee sutgery

Yeah, was thinking about picking some up.

[Dewey99]

Epharm joint force been helping alot aftr my knee sutgery

Joint Force is topical, right? Does it only provide relief where you apply it or does it absorb and help all over?

[domore]

Joint Force is topical, right? Does it only provide relief where you apply it or does it absorb and help all over?

Yes, Joint Force is topical. However, I am not sure of its MOA.

I found some Humanofort in my cupboard, so I'm going to high dose it and see if it helps with recovery since it contains naturally occurring IGF-1 and IGF-2, FGF, NGF, EGF, and CTGF.

Does anything else have the growth factors or the ability to increase the growth factors? (Earlier in the thread, Ursolic Acid was mentioned to increase IGF-1)

[Dewey99]

Yes, Joint Force is topical. However, I am not sure of its MOA.

I found some Humanofort in my cupboard, so I'm going to high dose it and see if it helps with recovery since it contains naturally occurring IGF-1 and IGF-2, FGF, NGF, EGF, and CTGF.

Does anything else have the growth factors or the ability to increase the growth factors? (Earlier in the thread, Ursolic Acid was mentioned to increase IGF-1)

Outside of stuff that you can't buy OTC, I would just stick with dedicated joint supps. I am 5 days out from surgery have decided to just roll with Osteo-Sport after considering all the options an getting some feedback from some people that know much more than I do about these things.

[domore]

Outside of stuff that you can't buy OTC, I would just stick with dedicated joint supps. I am 5 days out from surgery have decided to just roll with Osteo-Sport after considering all the options an getting some feedback from some people that know much more than I do about these things.

Yeah, I've decided to keep everything OTC. I didn't want to go down that road. I'll using Nutraplanet's Cissus as the main guy.

I know VaughnTrue and Dr. Houser like Humanofort, but I'm not sure if it will help in the way that I would like it to.

[antihero]

Yeah, I've decided to keep everything OTC. I didn't want to go down that road. I'll using Nutraplanet's Cissus as the main guy.

I know VaughnTrue and Dr. Houser like Humanofort, but I'm not sure if it will help in the way that I would like it to.

It's a very interesting topic. I can't really say how helpful it would be though.

[domore]

It's a very interesting topic. I can't really say how helpful it would be though.

We'll see. I'm probably going to dose it at 400-500mg.

[antihero]

We'll see. I'm probably going to dose it at 400-500mg.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it.

[domore]

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it.

I'll keep a little log of it and keep you updated. It will be a pretty short run since I only have one bottle--probably 12-15 days.

[domore]

Alrighty, tomorrow is the fifth day after my surgery.

Beginning tomorrow, I will be incorporating these supplements, and these only, for my recovery process.

Humanofort - 400mg before bed - Will probably be only to run it for 15 days at that dose.

Cissus - 1g before breakfast/1g before dinner

Protein & Bovine Plasma - My own version of ol' popular ErgoPharm's GF-Pro.

Fish Oil - 2-3g EPA/DHA

[Dewey99]

Alrighty, tomorrow is the fifth day after my surgery.

Beginning tomorrow, I will be incorporating these supplements, and these only, for my recovery process.

Humanofort - 400mg before bed - Will probably be only to run it for 15 days at that dose.

Cissus - 1g before breakfast/1g before dinner

Protein & Bovine Plasma - My own version of ol' popular ErgoPharm's GF-Pro.

Fish Oil - 2-3g EPA/DHA

How are you doing? I am 7 days out now and am only taking Osteo-Sport and Ergobolic. I was warned about taking Cissus too early after surgery so I am holding off on it until 2 weeks out.

[domore]

How are you doing? I am 7 days out now and am only taking Osteo-Sport and Ergobolic. I was warned about taking Cissus too early after surgery so I am holding off on it until 2 weeks out.

Not too bad, actually. Feeling decent. How are you?

Hmm. I'll probably hold off on cissus for another week. What is the problem with taking it too early?

[leprechaun1]

Epharm joint force been helping alot aftr my knee sutgery

Good stuff right here. Helped me recover quickly from a shoulder injury

[Mitch5]

Tb500 (thymosine beta 4) could be of interest. It can heal wounded tissues, ligaments, and tendons. It's a polypeptide found on research Chem sites. People swear by it and it has a boat load of positive effects and no negative that I could find

[Dewey99]

Tb500 (thymosine beta 4) could be of interest. It can heal wounded tissues, ligaments, and tendons. It's a polypeptide found on research Chem sites. People swear by it and it has a boat load of positive effects and no negative that I could find

Would be interested in Mr. Cooper's thoughts on this.

[Mitch5]

Would be interested in Mr. Cooper's thoughts on this.

I read on post about a guy who took it, granted its personal experience and not a study or anything so take with a grain of salt, but the guy said he had a confirmed torn labrum and after running the tb500 he did not have to have surgery to fix it.

Also makes your skin and hair shine and can possibly "re grow" hair.

Lean muscle mass / fat loss is possible

It is used in race horses for performance since it is not testable

It is also used to heal heart attack patients hearts

I'm thinking about using it pretty soon to help with joint injuries

[domore]

Would be interested in Mr. Cooper's thoughts on this.

Yeah, me too. However, I think I'll probably stay away from it.

[Dewey99]

Not too bad, actually. Feeling decent. How are you?

Hmm. I'll probably hold off on cissus for another week. What is the problem with taking it too early?

I am getting better but have a long road ahead of me.

As far as why to avoid Cissus early on, it has to do with Cissus encouraging osteoblast formation and osteoclast inhibition through suppression of NF-KB, which can cause heterotopic bone growth and mess things up.

[domore]

I am getting better but have a long road ahead of me.

As far as why to avoid Cissus early on, it has to do with Cissus encouraging osteoblast formation and osteoclast inhibition through suppression of NF-KB, which can cause heterotopic bone growth and mess things up.

Learn something new every day! Glad to hear you are doing better. It is definitely going to take some time.

So, two weeks is a good starting point, then? At two weeks, I am allowed to start bearing weight on my ankle, too.