Best non-stim creatine free preworkout supplement

Page 1 of 2 12 Last
  1. Registered User
    Sprinterguy4's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    484
    Answers
    0

    Best non-stim creatine free preworkout supplement


    I am looking for something non-stim because they have to be cycled. Also no creatine because i am looking for strength gains, not mass. Which product is good for a sprinting, endurance breathing and focus? Also does it have to be cycled? I dont mind if I have to stack as long as it's not a bunch of pills. Does AppNut's RPM+Drive come in powder form?

  2. Registered User
    PuZo's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  188 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    1,440
    Answers
    0


    Hemavol without a doubt! No need to cycle it and it tastes great!
    iForce Nutrition Representative
    iTrain. iCompete. iDominate…iForce!
    www.iforcenutrition.com
  3. Registered User
    antihero's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    1,357
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by aluchez
    I am looking for something non-stim because they have to be cycled. Also no creatine because i am looking for strength gains, not mass. Which product is good for a sprinting, endurance breathing and focus? Also does it have to be cycled? I dont mind if I have to stack as long as it's not a bunch of pills. Does AppNut's RPM+Drive come in powder form?
    Caffeine-Free Focus XT
    Serious Nutrition Solutions
    Revolutionizing Sports Nutrition, One Product At A Time
    antihero [@] SeriousNutritionSolutions.com
    •   
       

  4. Registered User
    Sprinterguy4's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    484
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by antihero

    Caffeine-Free Focus XT
    Does it give you the Alpha feeling?
  5. Registered User
    antihero's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    1,357
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by aluchez View Post
    Does it give you the Alpha feeling?
    I think it could be described that way. I would describe it as being very calm (stim free), yet completely enthralled in the task at hand.

    Plus, regular use of nootropics is great for memory retention, and who couldn't use a good brain boost?
    Serious Nutrition Solutions
    Revolutionizing Sports Nutrition, One Product At A Time
    antihero [@] SeriousNutritionSolutions.com
  6. Ω Omega Sports Ω
    Board Sponsor
    Clickster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Age
    29
    Posts
    2,501
    Answers
    0


    AX Ultra Reps
    iForce Hemavol
    Omega Ultima
    SNS Focus XT - Stim Free
    MAN Clout/BodyOctane

    All great options.
    Omega Sports Representative
    The Omega Vision Honor. Integrity. Trust.
  7. Banned
    Jay888999's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  195 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    1,364
    Answers
    0


    ...or you can just buy some stuff in bulk and make your own pre workout..Im doing that at the moment.Beta Alanine,Taurine,Creatine and LCLT.

    Not to take anything away from supp companies.
  8. Registered User
    jswain34's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"  213 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Age
    22
    Posts
    1,046
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by aluchez
    Also no creatine because i am looking for strength gains, not mass.
    Is this really your reason for not wanting creatine? you need to do some research on what creatine really does buddy. But to answer your question I would just buy your own bulk powders and make your own pwo. That's what I'm looking to do right now. Cit mal, beta alanine, agmatine,lclt. I like doing this because you can take it your concoction with any stim product you want, or even EC.
    Current Unsponsored XGELS log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/238229-jswains-run-xgels.html
  9. Registered User
    Dewey99's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  234 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    1,687
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by aluchez View Post
    I am looking for something non-stim because they have to be cycled. Also no creatine because i am looking for strength gains, not mass. Which product is good for a sprinting, endurance breathing and focus? Also does it have to be cycled? I dont mind if I have to stack as long as it's not a bunch of pills. Does AppNut's RPM+Drive come in powder form?
    RPM and Drive do not come in powder form. There is actually a funny trend of people uncapping RPM. I have done it and it is a kick in the a$$.

    AS far as a completely non-stim powder goes, Hemavol is good and the new Protocol is worth a look too.
  10. Banned
    Jay888999's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  195 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    1,364
    Answers
    0


    RPM and Drive

    I have had ppl reccomend this stack to me.i hear nothing but good things.who cares if its in pill form,if it does its job thats all the matters.
  11. Registered User
    Dewey99's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  234 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    1,687
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    RPM and Drive

    I have had ppl reccomend this stack to me.i hear nothing but good things.who cares if its in pill form,if it does its job thats all the matters.
    RPM does have caffeine in it though. Anybody wants to try samples of them, PM me.
  12. Registered User
    Sprinterguy4's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    484
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by jswain34

    Is this really your reason for not wanting creatine? you need to do some research on what creatine really does buddy. But to answer your question I would just buy your own bulk powders and make your own pwo. That's what I'm looking to do right now. Cit mal, beta alanine, agmatine,lclt. I like doing this because you can take it your concoction with any stim product you want, or even EC.
    I'm a sprinter and I want to stay lean and as light as possible. I took creatine before and it wasnt pretty. Before creatine i was 175 right before the season started, while i was on it i fluctuated between 182-185 mid-season!!! Needless to say my times suffered because of it. So no creatine.
  13. Registered User
    Sprinterguy4's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    484
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by jswain34

    Is this really your reason for not wanting creatine? you need to do some research on what creatine really does buddy. But to answer your question I would just buy your own bulk powders and make your own pwo. That's what I'm looking to do right now. Cit mal, beta alanine, agmatine,lclt. I like doing this because you can take it your concoction with any stim product you want, or even EC.
    My focus is being lean and light not bulky. Im a sprinter and I took creatine before. I started the season at 175 and after taking creatine i fluctuated between 182-185 midseason!!! Needless to say i my times suffered because of it. So no creatine lol. Sorry for the double post.
  14. Registered User
    Sprinterguy4's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    484
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99

    RPM and Drive do not come in powder form. There is actually a funny trend of people uncapping RPM. I have done it and it is a kick in the a$$.

    AS far as a completely non-stim powder goes, Hemavol is good and the new Protocol is worth a look too.
    I opened the capsules before and I payed for it with a long night of vomit and diarrhea. Lol
  15. Registered User
    jbryand101b's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    14,598
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by aluchez

    I'm a sprinter and I want to stay lean and as light as possible. I took creatine before and it wasnt pretty. Before creatine i was 175 right before the season started, while i was on it i fluctuated between 182-185 mid-season!!! Needless to say my times suffered because of it. So no creatine.
    Then you'll want to pick up some creatine ol phosphate.
  16. Registered User
    Daycrawler's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    825
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Then you'll want to pick up some creatine ol phosphate.
    This.

    SNS COP+SNS Cit-Mal= Endurance+Pumps like no other
  17. Registered User
    PrepNwa23's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  174 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    4,360
    Answers
    0


    COP, LCLT, Cit Mal, Agmatine and Leucine.
    PES Representative
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
  18. Registered User
    mr.cooper69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    10,456
    Answers
    8


    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post
    COP, LCLT, Cit Mal, Agmatine and Leucine.
    Stimulant-free Focus XT + any or all of the above.
    http://pescience.com/
    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
  19. Registered User
    warbird01's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  224 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    3,388
    Answers
    2


    Pretty much the whole SNS baseline series lol
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
    X-GELS THE Prohormone alternative!
    anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/246394-arachidonic-acid-help.html
  20. Registered User
    Dewey99's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  234 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    1,687
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23
    COP, LCLT, Cit Mal, Agmatine and Leucine.
    Protocol contains all of the above except for CM.
  21. Enhanced Body Formulations REP
    Board Sponsor
    EBF_2356's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  175 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Age
    25
    Posts
    6,966
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Clickster
    AX Ultra Reps
    iForce Hemavol
    Omega Ultima
    SNS Focus XT - Stim Free
    MAN Clout/BodyOctane

    All great options.
    TRUTH
    ...::: EBF REP :::...
    Recompadrol-AAv2-Metabolic Pow(d)er
    THE FUTURE OF LEAN
  22. Registered User
    allnatural923's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  186 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    1,150
    Answers
    0


    I would give hemavol a look. No creating and great doses of citrulline malate, agmatine, glycerol monostearate, and norvaline. Pumps and endurance from it are awesome. Also, look into Compete, it's designed as an intra-workout but can benefit any athlete. It has adequate doses of electrolytes for hydration, nootropic agents, whey hydrolysate for the aminos, and 2 forms of carnitine, which has really helped my endurance and recovery.
    MAN Sports Online Lead Rep and Sales
    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/man/pure-pf3-free-fermented-leucine-limited-time.html
    Like us on Facebook! Follow me on Instagram: Rob_MANSports
  23. Registered User
    Whacked's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    5,421
    Answers
    0


    Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Then you'll want to pick up some creatine ol phosphate.

    Quote Originally Posted by aluchez View Post
    My focus is being lean and light not bulky. Im a sprinter and I took creatine before. I started the season at 175 and after taking creatine i fluctuated between 182-185 midseason!!! Needless to say i my times suffered because of it. So no creatine lol. Sorry for the double post.
    A-Minds HYPE-SLAYER! All posts & feedback are guaranteed to be unsolicited and legit
    "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge. Fools despise wisdom & instruction"
    Proverbs 1:7
  24. Registered User
    bolt10's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    8,363
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Why?
    COP isn't creatine if that is what you are wondering. If not then carry on.


    Genomyx Protocol plus high dosed Cit. Mal. (8-10g) or IForce Hemavol + Compete

    If you want more focus throw some ALCAR or Focus XT in with some combination of what I mentioned above.
  25. Registered User
    jbryand101b's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    14,598
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99

    Protocol contains all of the above except for CM.
    How much of all those, except citruline malate, of its in it?
  26. Registered User
    Dewey99's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  234 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    1,687
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    How much of all those, except citruline malate, of its in it?
    One serving (2 scoops - 60 servings per tub):

    L-Leucine 3.25 g
    L-Carnitine L-Tartarate 1 g
    Creatinol-O Phospate 1 g
    Agmatine Sulfate 250 mg

    I think it's a great base to add other ingredients as desired (CM + BA?)
  27. Registered User
    jbryand101b's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    14,598
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Why?
    Because, is awesome!

    Jk, it is awesome, bit ill have to get research to back up what I want to say, before I say it.
  28. Registered User
    Whacked's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    5,421
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    COP isn't creatine if that is what you are wondering.
    It's not? What is it LOL

    HELP
    A-Minds HYPE-SLAYER! All posts & feedback are guaranteed to be unsolicited and legit
    "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge. Fools despise wisdom & instruction"
    Proverbs 1:7
  29. Registered User
    NomZ's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"   lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    2,468
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    It's not? What is it LOL

    HELP
    It's Creatinol-O-Phosphate, increased time to fatigue, pretty beneficial for an athlete. Plus heart health benefits.

    If I were OP, I'd be using citrulline malate, COP, and caffeine free Focus XT. Would stay away from GMS personally.

    The FXT makes cardio much more bearable for me...
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
    NomZ[at]seriousnutritionsolutions.com
    All posts are solely the opinion of myself and do not reflect the views of SNS.
  30. Registered User
    Whacked's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    5,421
    Answers
    0


    thk u
    A-Minds HYPE-SLAYER! All posts & feedback are guaranteed to be unsolicited and legit
    "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge. Fools despise wisdom & instruction"
    Proverbs 1:7
  31. Registered User
    criticalbench's Avatar
    Stats
    5'1"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    7,829
    Answers
    0


    Hemavol gets my vote. Has everything you are looking for, with a ton of solid reviews since its introduction.

    Mike
    iForce Nutrition Representative
    iTrain. iCompete. iDominate…iForce!
    www.iforcenutrition.com
  32. Registered User
    Daycrawler's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    825
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    Hemavol gets my vote. Has everything you are looking for, with a ton of solid reviews since its introduction.

    Mike
    Hemavol+COP is incredible also I might add.

    I like adding bulk CM and COP to Hemavol.
  33. Registered User
    kingjameskjf's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  220 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    4,476
    Answers
    0


    Caffeine free Focus XT, Caffeine free Ragnorok (blue razz was my favorite), Hemavol (tabs are great but I hated the powder), they are all good choices. I used to make my own preworkout cause you do it exactly the way you want but after Focus XT, I just started getting too lazy. Plus the focus flavors are great.
    Serious Nutrition Solutions rep
  34. Registered User
    Celorza's Avatar
    Stats
    5'6"  150 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Age
    23
    Posts
    9,552
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    Pretty much the whole SNS baseline series lol
    Pretty much lol
    >SNS-Glycophase<
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
  35. Enhanced Body Formulations REP
    Board Sponsor
    EBF_2356's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  175 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Age
    25
    Posts
    6,966
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf
    Caffeine free Focus XT, Caffeine free Ragnorok (blue razz was my favorite), Hemavol (tabs are great but I hated the powder), they are all good choices. I used to make my own preworkout cause you do it exactly the way you want but after Focus XT, I just started getting too lazy. Plus the focus flavors are great.
    Diggin the focus XT + COP and CM
    ...::: EBF REP :::...
    Recompadrol-AAv2-Metabolic Pow(d)er
    THE FUTURE OF LEAN
  36. Registered User
    fightbackhxc's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    7,386
    Answers
    1


    Quote Originally Posted by aluchez
    I am looking for something non-stim because they have to be cycled. Also no creatine because i am looking for strength gains, not mass. Which product is good for a sprinting, endurance breathing and focus? Also does it have to be cycled? I dont mind if I have to stack as long as it's not a bunch of pills. Does AppNut's RPM+Drive come in powder form?
    Caffeine free focus xt brotha throw some cm and agmatine in there boom!
    Serious Nutrition Solutions | Online Representative
    Growth Factor XT-GROW! Need Cycle Support? Check out Liver XT.
    Follow SNS on Facebook for more promos!
  37. Registered User
    kingjameskjf's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  220 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    4,476
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Diggin the focus XT + COP and CM
    I have all of these. Just need to stack them together now, with some X-Gels for good measure!
    Serious Nutrition Solutions rep
  38. Registered User
    Invycktus's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  161 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    811
    Answers
    0


    Hemavol, Condense, Speed X3, Caf. Free Focus XT, And there is one more I keep forgetting.

    There may be a lot of threads on this.

    Compete sounds a good product and I still cannot remember the one name I am forgetting!
    Last edited by Invycktus; 09-05-2012 at 12:11 PM. Reason: I have the memory of a goldfish!
    MEM->DCA->PHL->MEM
  39. Registered User
    jswain34's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"  213 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Age
    22
    Posts
    1,046
    Answers
    0


    Omega sports ultra reps?
    Current Unsponsored XGELS log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/238229-jswains-run-xgels.html
  40. Registered User
    PrepNwa23's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  174 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    4,360
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf

    I have all of these. Just need to stack them together now, with some X-Gels for good measure!
    Sex-gels?
    PES Representative
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. what is the best non stim appetite suppressor.
    By WannaGro in forum Supplements
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 05-28-2014, 03:18 AM
  2. Best Non-Stim Preworkout??
    By liquidnolva in forum Supplements
    Replies: 44
    Last Post: 07-05-2012, 07:15 PM
  3. Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-07-2010, 08:40 AM
  4. Best NON stim appetite suppresant
    By conan1071 in forum Supplements
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 07-07-2007, 06:34 PM
  5. What is the best non stim fat burner?
    By Mr.50 in forum Supplements
    Replies: 33
    Last Post: 04-12-2006, 09:16 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in