Petition for Supplement Science section

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  1. I was joking guys (but thanks for the support)

    My vote would be for ZirRed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin
    I hear ya...but why can't you discuss science here?
    Quote Originally Posted by boogyman

    I think they are looking for an area thats moderated a bit more to keep the Brosephs out.
    I think overall because then there would be a section to cover ingredients and compounds, not which company is better. With a "Supplement Science" section the rules could be enforced differently with separate moderators as previously mentioned. In the supplement section, there are really no rules against reps or users coming in and saying THIS product is great.

    A section to focus on research articles and science would be a win for everyone IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10

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    So far between them and Zir RED most of the people whose posts I like to follow because they usually back stuff up with actual studies have posted in here.
    Agreed 110%. I literally follow these guys from post to post, lurking and reading.
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  4. Im in, and ready to be blinded by it
  5. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolanrox
    Im in, and ready to be blinded by it
    I'll stay involved to help translate for the scientifically impaired
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I'll stay involved to help translate for the scientifically impaired
    Science!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    I hear ya...but why can't you discuss science here?
    We certainly can, and numerous threads have been created strictly in the name of scientific inquiry. However, most of these threads get lost amidst all the company-related threas within just a few days, so I think it would be beneficial to everyone to have a readily accessible section that discusses the latest and greatest on various ingredients, without (or with minimal) company bias involved. Look at PA/Dr. Houser's sections...for the most part, there is a much higher proclivity for members to learn simply because unique, science-based discussions have evolved from seemingly basic questions like "What do you think about BCAAs?" These are just my two cents and I think I'll live if we don't make a science section, but it would be awesome .

  8. It would be useful because when you try to discuss something you end up with post like

    "Bro I been on CEE for 2 weeks and the pumps and gains are sick! Up 15lbs already!"

    Or when you challenge someones statement and question their thinking, logic or general ability to be objective in a discussion you get

    "science isnt everything! I know what I know. Every pro does this and its true. You need 10 meals a deal to stoke metabolism. Its common sense, I dont need to prove it"

    With a discussion section founded on objective reasoning and science it eliminates the brolore and challenges members to start questioning and thinking for themselves. More questions like, "Why do you suppose tribulus is such a great test booster?" and "What is the proposed MOA?" Instead of the typical type of questions like "which carb gives the best gains. Brown rice or white rice?". And yes while anecdotal evidence does has its place, n=1 experience seems to dominate every thread here. There isnt a good balance between actual evidence and bro i spired "evidence" in my opinion and this is what this proposed section would bring to the table. Simple rules like if you make a statement or are in a debate, try to remain objective and back you post up with the very least some sort of thought process and ideally some form of research. Be respectful and dont be a dik if you have a disagreement. Hostility is not welcome in debates. Too often when you are discussing something against someone and they realize that either they are wrong, dont know what the hell they are saying or you back them into a corner with evidence, they get hostile and resort to "how much can you bench then bro" or "lets see your pic" and other nonsense. A place where this isn't allowed would be amazing! And this does not mean there will not be disagreements among the more science minded members and the same rule will apply to them as well like, yes maurine models suck but for many cases its all we have. Or the in vivo vs in vitro disagreements. Also, no specific product bashing or even discussion for that matter would be helpful. Discuss ingredients and if you so choose you can discuss the interactions between multiple ingrediets. Simple things like this will set the tone for a great forum.

    Examples, me and coop briefly discussed via PMs the health implications of TTA and I was tempted to make a thread but I know it will get over run with post like "I lost mad weight on DCP. Its legit!" same goes for berberine. We have had a couple post back in forth in various threads on its potential negative effects and again it gets drowned out by post full anecdotal evidence (mainly n=1) being passed off as empirical evidence. Hell i have a thread on blood sugar lowering adjuvants and it was going good but then turned into "insert company GDA" vs. "insert opposing company GDA". Same goes for a thread I was involved in on the topic of high gi vs low gi carbs and a thread on carbs post workout in general. These types of discussions are in valuable to the community but they consistent get drowned out by bickering, false claims and psuedo-science.

    Or in other words, I sign this petition and support coops motion for this forum
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Invycktus View Post
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    Packers wont be happy!
    One does not simply Mix DC Comics with Marvel Universe Comics...
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    One does not simply Mix DC Comics with Marvel Universe Comics...
    Agreed

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  13. I've learnt so much from scientific discussions that take place on AM, there are countless like me that are peeping them from the shadows and benefiting, so in honour of that I e-sign

  14. Indubitably.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    Understand why, but its a matter of manpower if you want so many restrictions on it.
    I don't necessarily want restrictions per se. All we would need is the ability to move non-science (i.e. rate my stack) threads to the main supplement section. Other threads like "Best testosterone booster" can certainly stay...the only difference will be that we will use an objective approach in dissecting the various ingredients found in such products. If someone wants to come into the thread and offer anecdotal evidence, that is perfectly fine. This will undoubtedly be a small section relative to the main supplement section, so most people (except for noobs) will get the gist of what should and shouldn't be posted in the science section. Thoughts?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    I don't necessarily want restrictions per se. All we would need is the ability to move non-science (i.e. rate my stack) threads to the main supplement section. Other threads like "Best testosterone booster" can certainly stay...the only difference will be that we will use an objective approach in dissecting the various ingredients found in such products. If someone wants to come into the thread and offer anecdotal evidence, that is perfectly fine. This will undoubtedly be a small section relative to the main supplement section, so most people (except for noobs) will get the gist of what should and shouldn't be posted in the science section. Thoughts?
    Agreed would offer another section of this site where people wouldn't have to do huge searches to find a good discussion on the science of things. Without getting shoved way down, I think JudoJosh's blood sugar thread was good but I forget cause it gets lost in the shuffle.

  17. It would also be greater opportunity for those of us who don't know as much in the scientific side to pick the brains of you genius'

  18. I would sign, and only one rule needed:

    30 day ban for idiots.
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  20. Can we also make a rule that it doesn't become a quasi-circle jerk like other 'supplement science' boards? I'd name names, but I am sure I will offend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    Come up with some rules. Make them simple and to the point.
    I think the essence is "This area is for scientific discussion. Personal experiences can be shared but understand that success in a group size of 1 without a control and with many other variables is not science. New threads can either be a question about the science behind an ingredient/dietary strategy or can be sharing a study / other science based piece of writing. Inappropriate responses and inappropriate new threads will be removed."
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  22. Haha true story HTS.

    As for coop's question, I'm with ya buddy! You got my vote

  23. Absolutely love this idea.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Admin
    BAM

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    EasyEJL is a forum moderator for this section. If you want to be a mod, PM him with your application.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    BAM


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    EasyEJL is a forum moderator for this section. If you want to be a mod, PM him with your application.
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  27. That was amazing thanks Admin and congrats Easy!
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  28. Nice!
  

  
 

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