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    I see there is an abundance of different Carnitines..Looking too find out the diff bwtween these two,there benefits and if one is more necesarry than the other..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    I see there is an abundance of different Carnitines..Looking too find out the diff bwtween these two,there benefits and if one is more necesarry than the other..

    Any info will be appreciated.TY
    ALCAR provides more Nootropic benefits, while LCLT is best for Indirect Androgen Receptor stimulation. ALCAR IMO is best dosed on an empty stomach, and while LCLT is best this way too, LCLT's effects are better grasped upon a Pre-Workout dosage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    ALCAR provides more Nootropic benefits, while LCLT is best for Indirect Androgen Receptor stimulation. ALCAR IMO is best dosed on an empty stomach, and while LCLT is best this way too, LCLT's effects are better grasped upon a Pre-Workout dosage.
    ^^^ yeah this sums it up in the proverbial nutshell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    ^^^ yeah this sums it up in the proverbial nutshell.
    There's more to it but if OP wants more he can ask or research haha. This are it's main benefits and applications, but I'm sure Coop will arrive in just some more hours and add anything we miss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    There's more to it but if OP wants more he can ask or research haha. This are it's main benefits and applications, but I'm sure Coop will arrive in just some more hours and add anything we miss.
    long story short, take 2g of each daily, profit
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    long story short, take 2g of each daily, profit
    Perfect answer..TY =)
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    all the answers here are what i needed....thnks
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    ALCAR is great for studying. I take 1g about an hour before I hit the books and I am good to go.
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    I started about 2 months ago taking 1500mg on an empty stomach in the morning. I can defiantly tell sharper focus and general well being. It will be a staple for life. Never tried LCLT, so may look into that as well.
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    I'd take ALC but it keeps me up at night even if I take it 12 hours previously...swear to God ...LCLT no problem though....I always take it with any type of PH or DS or SARM etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    I'd take ALC but it keeps me up at night even if I take it 12 hours previously...swear to God ...LCLT no problem though....I always take it with any type of PH or DS or SARM etc.
    Hm...How are you dosing it brother? The ALCAR I mean, Fasted? Pre-meal? After a GDA? With stims?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    I'd take ALC but it keeps me up at night even if I take it 12 hours previously...swear to God ...LCLT no problem though....I always take it with any type of PH or DS or SARM etc.
    This may be due to ALCAR's elimination half-life of about 36 hours: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19178874
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    This may be due to ALCAR's elimination half-life of about 36 hours: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19178874
    I still have a long way to go...Thanks for the article Cy
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    Which LCLT producer you guys rec?
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    lol, I knew that I was not going crazy haha....but yeah, first thing in the morning empty stomach 1-2 gram....used to take it for YEARS like that, but I'd always have to stop after a while due to insomnia...then I'd start it up again, have to quit not to long after....so on and so forth. We thought it raised test back then though, I believe I have heard lately it doesn't raise test though...not sure on that part....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dallasboy22 View Post
    Which LCLT producer you guys rec?
    bulk at nutraplanet. best place to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    bulk at nutraplanet. best place to get it.
    Thank ya sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    ALCAR provides more Nootropic benefits, while LCLT is best for Indirect Androgen Receptor stimulation. ALCAR IMO is best dosed on an empty stomach, and while LCLT is best this way too, LCLT's effects are better grasped upon a Pre-Workout dosage.
    Good answer here. The only thing I would add is that you can take both if you like. Lots of smart people (ALCAR pun) do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99

    Good answer here. The only thing I would add is that you can take both if you like. Lots of smart people (ALCAR pun) do.
    Don't forget about PLCAR
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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    Don't forget about PLCAR
    Don't Forget SNS carries them at the best price in the market and in a convenient dosing way of 500mg per cap!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Don't Forget SNS carries them at the best price in the market and in a convenient dosing way of 500mg per cap!
    As someone that currently uses bulk ALCAR now, I would highly suggest caps if you can get them. As Celorza and Antihero said SNS makes all of them and the products are all competitively priced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99

    As someone that currently uses bulk ALCAR now, I would highly suggest caps if you can get them. As Celorza and Antihero said SNS makes all of them and the products are all competitively priced.
    I feel much more focused and clear minded on Alcar
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    the ALCAR will be pretty much the same price give or take a a few cents depending where you find it. Unless someone has a super sale or something Definitely good stuff!

    I've used SNS's, currently using my Vit store house brand, and plan on using Fahrenheit's next. I'd have no problem reccomending any of them.

    Is anyone doing capped LCLT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    I feel much more focused and clear minded on Alcar
    I never need more than 1g on an empty stomach PWO or 30 mins after Na-R-Ala...additional .5g are good later in the day too, helps me tough through late classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolanrox View Post
    the ALCAR will be pretty much the same price give or take a a few cents depending where you find it. Unless someone has a super sale or something Definitely good stuff!
    ALCAR
    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/s...-capsules.html
    LCLT
    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...100-grams.html

    ALCAR is a bit more expensive, yet its benefits are different and it needs less dosage. Not to mention it does not have to be taken PWO to get its benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    ALCAR
    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/s...-capsules.html
    LCLT
    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...100-grams.html

    ALCAR is a bit more expensive, yet its benefits are different and it needs less dosage. Not to mention it does not have to be taken PWO to get its benefits.
    Here are good sources of each:

    ALCAR: SNS caps, PF bulk powder (what I have been using) or Clout (before they changed the formula)
    PLCAR: SNS caps (just got some and will start as soon as safe to resume supps) or NP bulk PLCAR. Also in DCP.
    LCLT: Anavite, bulk powder or the new Protocol. Huge fan of Protocol with it's simple formula of Leucine, LCLT, COP and Agmatine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    Here are good sources of each:

    ALCAR: SNS caps, PF bulk powder (what I have been using) or Clout (before they changed the formula)
    PLCAR: SNS caps (just got some and will start as soon as safe to resume supps) or NP bulk PLCAR. Also in DCP.
    LCLT: Anavite, bulk powder or the new Protocol. Huge fan of Protocol with it's simple formula of Leucine, LCLT, COP and Agmatine.dont forget Compete 2g LCLT/2g LCF
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    Is it ok to take Alcar and LCLT for long periods? (More then 3 months)
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    I thought about Compete too as it's a good source of LCLT and LCF among other things. Haven't tried it yet though although I hear great things about the Tangy Tangerine flavor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by umbasante View Post
    Is it ok to take Alcar and LCLT for long periods? (More then 3 months)
    Yes. I personally cycle between the different carnitine sources during the year but use them pretty much non-stop in some form or the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    Here are good sources of each:

    ALCAR: SNS caps, PF bulk powder (what I have been using) or Clout (before they changed the formula)
    PLCAR: SNS caps (just got some and will start as soon as safe to resume supps) or NP bulk PLCAR. Also in DCP.
    LCLT: Anavite, bulk powder or the new Protocol. Huge fan of Protocol with it's simple formula of Leucine, LCLT, COP and Agmatine.
    I am gonna miss ALCAR in my Clout.

    Good list, but pretty much everybody has jumped on the LCLT wagon lately. Stuff is literally in EVERY new pre-workout that comes out lately.

    Good info all around in this thread though so not much input from me! I prefer 3g ALCAR daily when using it tho (1.5 upon waking and 1.5 later in the day or before exercise).

    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    I thought about Compete too as it's a good source of LCLT and LCF among other things. Haven't tried it yet though although I hear great things about the Tangy Tangerine flavor.
    I actually think I like the LD flavor more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    I thought about Compete too as it's a good source of LCLT and LCF among other things. Haven't tried it yet though although I hear great things about the Tangy Tangerine flavor.
    its worth having just for the taste............soooooooooooo ooooooo damn good *i can say the same thing about protocol, teh cherry flavor was absolutely amazing*
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    its worth having just for the taste............soooooooooooo ooooooo damn good *i can say the same thing about protocol, teh cherry flavor was absolutely amazing*
    This man speaks the truth! Cherry was excellent
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
    This man speaks the truth! Cherry was excellent
    i would put it up there in my top 5 favorite flavors as far as powdered supps go
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    cherry flavor pretty much tops anything else most of the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    i would put it up there in my top 5 favorite flavors as far as powdered supps go
    Have you tried the Protocol v.2? I never got a chance to try the original but the new flavor is very different and tastes great chilled. Protocol + Tangerine Compete is also beyond refreshing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Have you tried the Protocol v.2? I never got a chance to try the original but the new flavor is very different and tastes great chilled. Protocol + Tangerine Compete is also beyond refreshing!
    nay......i havent tried it since the switch from BA to COP. i havent really made many supplement purchases lately, but its on my list of stuff i need to pick up
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    i would put it up there in my top 5 favorite flavors as far as powdered supps go
    Same. I would throw some extras in there like MCC, extra leucine, creatine nitrate, AlCAR, Plcar, etc and the flavor remained unchanged. GOOD STUFF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    nay......i havent tried it since the switch from BA to COP. i havent really made many supplement purchases lately, but its on my list of stuff i need to pick up
    Ya I have been buying more than usual lately. New job and more cash laying around makes it harder to resist deals.

    Definitely combines nice with pretty much anything. If I was a stim guy I bet MI + Protocol pre plus Compete intra would be very nice.
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