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New Protein Bar From Next Nutrition: Another Label Claims Disaster?

  1.  02-18-2003  09:40 PM
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    New Protein Bar From Next Nutrition: Another Label Claims Disaster?


    http://www.uturnbar.com/

    They claim this one tastes like a milky way. I took the survey, and when I get my free bar I'll let you guys know. I wonder how poorly this one will do on lab assays....



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    ooo i want one!

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    This is the same company that makes the new Detour bars, which taste like a Snickers bar. 1 fast 400 did a test (see his website for the analysis) and nutritional claims were mostly confirmed (a little higher sugar and carb content than claimed but not outrageously so). So, this gives me a comfort level about this new bar.

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    Sheesh, thanks for the link. I sent in for a freebie.

  5.  02-19-2003  10:54 AM
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    Originally posted by GuyinLA
    This is the same company that makes the new Detour bars, which taste like a Snickers bar.
    Thus my Topic...

  6.  02-19-2003  01:52 PM
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    eh, **** all them little bars... getcha WD's ****, make em how you like, don't worry about label claims, and have yoself a simple, tasty delight tailored to exactly what you need

  7.  02-19-2003  01:58 PM
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    where is WD's ****?

    im looking for a container of 60 something bars for dirt cheap. until then, I will keep eating.

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    Originally posted by Biggin
    eh, **** all them little bars... getcha WD's ****, make em how you like, don't worry about label claims, and have yoself a simple, tasty delight tailored to exactly what you need
    Well said.

  9.  02-19-2003  03:37 PM
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    Originally posted by GuyinLA
    This is the same company that makes the new Detour bars, which taste like a Snickers bar. 1 fast 400 did a test (see his website for the analysis) and nutritional claims were mostly confirmed (a little higher sugar and carb content than claimed but not outrageously so). So, this gives me a comfort level about this new bar.
    1fast was not the only one that did tests on them... Nature's Best and Met-Rx did as well, and those came in way off label claims. Yeah, you could argue that those are competitor tests, but I still don't find them hard to believe. Here's why:

    When they first came out I decided to try one. Then they ran out. Then the second batch came in, so I tried another one. For one, the second batch didn't taste as good IMO. And, I noticed that the second batch had far less caramel and nuts than the first batch. The first batch had caramel and nuts going down at least 1/3 of the way down the bar. If you try one of the current ones you'll see that there is barely any caramel any more.

    All that said, I still prefer WD's recipe.

  10.  02-19-2003  07:06 PM
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    Originally posted by Supa Freek 420


    1fast was not the only one that did tests on them... Nature's Best and Met-Rx did as well, and those came in way off label claims. Yeah, you could argue that those are competitor tests, but I still don't find them hard to believe. Here's why:

    When they first came out I decided to try one. Then they ran out. Then the second batch came in, so I tried another one. For one, the second batch didn't taste as good IMO. And, I noticed that the second batch had far less caramel and nuts than the first batch. The first batch had caramel and nuts going down at least 1/3 of the way down the bar. If you try one of the current ones you'll see that there is barely any caramel any more.

    All that said, I still prefer WD's recipe.
    Your point is acknowledged. For me, I only consume protein bars as a snack mid-morning at work when I get hungry and a shake or food is inconvenient. I figure, eating a protein bar is way better than eating a candy bar or doughnut and if choosing wisely, a protein bar is actually relatively healthy. Detour bars to me are considerably tastier than any other bar I've tried. That said, I'm only concerned that the nutritional claims aren't way off. Since Next Proteins is a reputable company and 1 fast's test was favorable, I'm left with the impression that the label claims are reasonably accurate at this point. Perhaps the first batch might have been off, which can happen with a new product, but I don't think an established, ongoing company would continue to produce a product that didn't match nutirtional claims.

  11.  02-19-2003  07:19 PM
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    Originally posted by dez/null
    where is WD's ****?

    im looking for a container of 60 something bars for dirt cheap. until then, I will keep eating.
    You haven't seen that recipe yet dez??

    Orginally Posted by Wardog

    16 ounces Natural peanut butter
    8 tablespoons honey
    six scoops of Optimum Chocolate whey protein powder
    1 cup of uncooked oatmeal

    Mix the pb and honey in a bowl, microwave on full for 80 secs. Add the rest and mix together. Can add raisins/nuts etc to taste. Smooth into 13x9 tray and leave for 20 mins. Cut into 10 to 12 equal bars and wrap and store in fridge.

    This is a great tasting recipe that I modified from one I found on 'bolex

    Now here is the breakdown on a batch of the goodies:

    Protein: 254 grams
    Carbohydrates: 282 grams
    Fats: 236 grams

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    That bomb of carbs (a lot of fructose too) and fat.....can't be good.

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    Originally posted by bachovas
    That bomb of carbs (a lot of fructose too) and fat.....can't be good.
    You'd be surprised.

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    I made ones similar to this in the past, but with vanilla whey. I found I got sick of them quickly. But overall they were ok. Maybe I'll have to try them again with chocolate this time.

  15.  02-20-2003  01:11 PM
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    Originally posted by Sheesh
    You'd be surprised.
    I'm sure it tastes pretty good, I meant that carb-fat combination.

  16.  02-20-2003  01:24 PM
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    Originally posted by bachovas
    That bomb of carbs (a lot of fructose too) and fat.....can't be good.
    That was my impression too. Honey is as bad as table sugar. Far too many carbs too.

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    all you skeptics of the whey/pb/honey/oat bars, I don't much understand the problem... you don't sit and eat the whole ****ing mess at once... so what's the deal? divide them up however you like, add less honey (which by the way is not as 'bad' as table sugar, but either way what do you think they put in the majority of mrp bars? yeah that's right, a bunch of processed ****), more whey, less oatmeal, different flavors or spices to taste... I mean come on now, if you're going to pay two dollars per ****ty bar I guess that's your business... I'll do it myself, save money and have a better idea of exactly what I'm eating (ow)

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    A brief overview on why you shouldn't mix carbs and fat:
    From Timbo at the bb.com forums.
    Carbs stimulate insulin, which will cause the body to preferentially oxidize glucose for fuel. At the same time, insulin is a potent inhibitor of fatty acid oxidation and a potent stimulator of lipogenesis (i.e. fat storage).

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    always eat either carbs/protein, or fat/protein, but never together. that what you're saying?

  20.  02-21-2003  07:31 AM
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    Originally posted by bachovas
    A brief overview on why you shouldn't mix carbs and fat:
    Insulin is also a very anabolic hormone. As long as you're bulking or trying to gain weight, and your taxing your body in terms of physical demands, these would make a fine addition to your diet.

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