(not sure about this)
wha also coulbe added to a clean diet?
sesathin should be a def..dont underestimate this and keep the fish oils as it enhances absorbtion,i would eliminate the 7-keto as i have never heard of anyone losing weight taking it..might wanan try 7-oh from Ds..but i think u will be pleasantly surprised with seathin
Sesathin for sure. I have taken up to 6ccs at a time because I was pigging out on candy. Didnt seem to gain any fat from that long pig out night either.7 keto is proven to aid in wieght loss, I think it would be a good addition. Also, if you can afford it LR3Igf-1 would be a good choice.
Alcar, sesathin and green tea work magic.
green tea from 1fast and cap it urself highest amount of egcg's i ahve seen..50%..stuff makes me sweat at 2 grams a day
new updated anarchy stackOriginally Posted by DmitryWI
yah i keep getting mixed reviews on 7-keto.......i dont know if its a good addition, or not.
i wouldnt waste the cash..i have 2 bottles of the old fl7..im going to add 3-alpha and to both bottle and use the gel up that way
CLA @ 12 grams per day.
Yep, it how I call it ( I use NAC too)Originally Posted by wojo
Originally Posted by wojo
did you get any effect from fl7????
ok here is the stck im thinking about
grean tea extract
Last edited by acecombact1; 11-06-2004 at 07:44 PM.
cla is a waste compared to sesathin..i have gone as far as 20 grams of cla and never got results compared tos esathin..i had no results with fl7 except a little rise in mood which could have been placebo..althought absolved worked well for me.good solid stack u got there
wojo- how much fish oil & sesathin do you think? (Also, I never totally understood why to use the fish oil)
You said 20g cla didn't work? I'm kind of surprised, compared to my experience with it.
FL7/transdermal 7-OXO has worked for me and many others. You need to do a 2 month cycle to see results.
Absolved helped me lose fat off my abs while bulking.
absolved(and add 3g 7oxo powder) 2sq 2x per day
Sesathin 1500mg a day
7oxo-partitioner and increases metabolism. Gives me ~5-10% boost. Also reduces cortisol=more muscle:fat.
Originally Posted by rrgg
actually i said 20 grams of cla didnt work half as well as 2.5 cc's of sesathing worked for me 3x a day..if u ever wanna see my exeriences with cla,green tea and alcar jsut visis the huge anarchy thread..do a search.cla does work dont get me wrong but man sesathin blew it out of the water.i still say 7-oh would be worth a try..absolve def works for a bulker..i love the stuff but the price sucks..i think u could easily homebrew ur own versonwith some ba and isopropyl alcohol and 7-oxo
the formula is here
it uses acetone but i think u could easily scrae the acetone 20% ba 80/% iso maybe some d-limone
just some food for thought
Id suggest using some BCAA"s as well, wont help you 'cut' persay, but they will help your body from becoming catabolic while ingesting all these cutting products so you are guarenteed to keep on your LBM whilst maximizing bf% loss.
Take it in MINIMUM of 20g doses pre and pwo, otherwise it's not worth the investment though.
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