Alphamine First Impressions
- 09-16-2012, 02:46 PM
- 09-16-2012, 02:50 PM
09-16-2012, 03:01 PM
09-16-2012, 03:04 PM
>SNS-Glycophase<Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
09-16-2012, 03:17 PM
09-16-2012, 03:47 PM
Exact body fat measurements do not matter because unless someone has a spare Bod Pod kicking around there is a huge margin of error in most body composition assessments.
Basically, people are looking significantly leaner in the mirror. I am glad that it is a significant amount in a short space of time.
09-16-2012, 09:34 PM
09-16-2012, 10:20 PM
Me too. It really doesnt matter. Im probably wrong and thats fine. I wont lose sleep over it.Originally Posted by chedapalooza
09-16-2012, 10:52 PM
Cel not sure why you feel it necessary to call people "groupies" that enjoy a product and show love to an awesome company. The product is amazing and this is a positive driven thread that doesn't need that input to be frank. Let's not fall back into past trends please bud.
Edit: believe me it isn't humanly possible to over hype this product. You will learn that soon if you try it.
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09-17-2012, 09:11 AM
I know the product works Buddy, seems more than legit to me. What I mean is lets not make claims that are out of the ordinary even for AAS for a natural supplement. I know the product delivers perfectly for fat loss, formula looks solid an PES is reputable.Originally Posted by LiveToLift
I like the approach PES takes with their products like never saying: "2 scoops and XXX result out of the ordinary" , they let the product speak for itself, but I am sure you would be skeptical if suddenly people started saying: "1 week 5% BF loss!" ( just an example ).
Honest positive reviews have been given with everyone tht has tried it, that's awesome, let's just avoid unreal numbers with no real measurement standard. Idk of this offended you bro, I didn't mean to offend anyone...just saying lets not extrapolate stuff.
And I repeat I like PES and alphamine looks to be impressive stuff, I just meant to point out realism.
>SNS-Glycophase<Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
09-17-2012, 09:32 AM
If I pointed out every time a new supp gets insane and unrealistic feedback that is completely impossible I'd have so many more posts!
Not directing this at anyone just saying...nom saying?
Put my opened Alphamine away hidden so I don't try and scoop any more out of it until I plan to use it regularly...feels sad man
09-17-2012, 09:37 AM
Thanks for sharing, no matter what people say, you are getting results and that's what mattersOriginally Posted by smithouse
09-17-2012, 10:46 AM
Asking people to stick to reviews that have a real measurement standard immediately excludes anything without a Bod Pod, DEXA or underwater reading. This would also prohibit customers posting honest thoughts because they are frightened a more experienced board member might tell them their results are unrealistic.
We are never going to have 100% measured feedback, nobody will.
In the interim, if someone says they look like they have lost 3% fat in a week I will take that. How many people know for sure exactly what 3% looks like? Does anyone here measure themselves frequently enough to confidently know? If you post a picture on here and ask for a body fat estimate most people will guess differently based on their own perception of what they think it looks like.
So, if a customer says they "look like" they have lost 3% in a week this is awesome for them. They didn't say they had it measured and it is exactly 3% fat. Does it matter if the forum agrees it is realistic? Of course not.
I am happy to let customers post their honest reviews, good or bad and have no intention of influencing them one way or another.
Thank you to everyone who posts their thoughts, please keep them coming.
09-17-2012, 10:59 AM
This dosage that we are taking about it, is it based on the spoon that comes in the tub?
Just curious. I started my tub of FP this Friday FWIW
09-17-2012, 11:09 AM
Yes. A scoop is the scoop included.
09-17-2012, 11:52 AM
i'm just here reading, figured i'd add my .02 -- it's what we're here for, right?
sure it matters. else, why are you here defending said customer?So, if a customer says they "look like" they have lost 3% in a week this is awesome for them. They didn't say they had it measured and it is exactly 3% fat. Does it matter if the forum agrees it is realistic? Of course not.
i hold no bias here - i've never used this product, and have only used a handful of PES products ever. i have no opinion one way or the other about the company, or anyone connected to it.
but - i certainly have an opinion as to someone saying they can lose 3% bf in a week -- while maintaining weight on top of that -- from the direct use of ANY product.
these claims are par for the course, happen in the industry all the time.
whether worded as "i did lose 3%", or it "looks like i lost 3%", you should be prepared for knowledgeable persons to come in and say it is impossible for this to happen.
for what it's worth, my take: product looks interesting, has me curious.
09-17-2012, 12:54 PM
09-17-2012, 12:56 PM
I would take any review on face value. If someone said they lost no fat then I accept this.
The reason I defend a customer is because I don't like the mentality that people don't feel free to post their honest opinions. I respect when someone posts a bad review because often companies make it hard for them to do so. I don't want this happening with positive reviews as well. It has nothing to do with whether I trust the accuracy of the review or not.
I don't believe 3% fat in a week is feasible without significant lean mass lost but if a customer says they 'look like' they have lost 3% then brilliant. They might have had a lot of water which made the appearance look more impressive than the actual percentage of adipose tissue lost.
Saying that customers shouldn't post reviews unless they have accurate measurements is ludicrous. It is similar to saying unless you have done this in a double blind university trial we don't care what you have to say. I would never imply that to another human's review on a supplement whether it was for PES or another supplement company.
09-17-2012, 01:09 PM
in any event, i understand your point.
and, you seem to understand and acknowledge the physiological impossibilities that have been espoused here....
therefore, i'll go back to reading quietly.
09-17-2012, 01:27 PM
Is it time to start a "Never Listen to Bdcc over Fruit Punch Alphamine" thread yet?
09-17-2012, 01:31 PM
Fixed =)Originally Posted by Invycktus
09-17-2012, 01:34 PM
09-17-2012, 02:25 PM
Yes, it was implied in Celorza's post. I have no issue with the post from Cyrus.
I have a pet peeve with companies influencing reviews by making someone feel bad for posting a negative review and don't wish for this to occur with positive reviews as well. It isn't good for customers to feel like they can't be honest on a forum.
We could go into any muscle building or fat loss supplement review thread and take the route "unless you have exact measurements I don't trust your results" but we are better than that.
I never openly question bad reviews and have that motto with good reviews as well. I just take them at face value and welcome all customer feedback without exclusion. I am grateful for all feedback and do not wish it to be influenced either way as it wouldn't be fair to the customer.
09-17-2012, 07:15 PM
09-17-2012, 08:19 PM
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