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    Originally Posted by Aleksandar37
    At the very least add DAA into the mix. If your budget allows it and you really want to see great results, go with AnaBeta as well!
    Was looking into Anabeta,$55.00 a bottle is pricey man...have the daa on hand and a few other things...i thibk ill be hesitant anyway on spensibg $55.00 on a bottle of a natural supp,that can possibly b hit or miss as its when spendinf any money on a nat supp,imo..**** man i can get a bottle of Halodrol for 60 with minimal to no sides while on and just as well as off and def gains..just saying as an example..not that sides are good in any way,lol..



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    Ok i was looking at Cissus from prima force they have it in bulk powder or capsule form..which is the better option? And is prima force a solid company?

    They seem to have a lot of bulk powders and lots of solid supps such as DAA,Agmatime,cissus,zma,citrul line malate etc...

    Store i get my supps from has everything under the sun,so getting stuff is no prob

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    Originally Posted by Jay888999
    Ok i was looking at Cissus from prima force they have it in bulk powder or capsule form..which is the better option? And is prima force a solid company?

    They seem to have a lot of bulk powders and lots of solid supps such as DAA,Agmatime,cissus,zma,citrul line malate etc...

    Store i get my supps from has everything under the sun,so getting stuff is no prob
    I can only recommended USPlabs Super Cissus or SNS Cissus XT as they are the only two I've used. Both are very effective.
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    Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Ok i was looking at Cissus from prima force they have it in bulk powder or capsule form..which is the better option? And is prima force a solid company?

    They seem to have a lot of bulk powders and lots of solid supps such as DAA,Agmatime,cissus,zma,citrul line malate etc...

    Store i get my supps from has everything under the sun,so getting stuff is no prob
    PrimaForce is a solid company, but you will want a lower extract % of Cissus than they use. Lower is better for joint pain. I'd go with Cissus XT caps from SNS. They are 5%, in cap form (Cissus powder is awful tasting) and they are pretty cheap for about $23-$25 a bottle.

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    Originally Posted by Dewey99

    PrimaForce is a solid company, but you will want a lower extract % of Cissus than they use. Lower is better for joint pain. I'd go with Cissus XT caps from SNS. They are 5%, in cap form (Cissus powder is awful tasting) and they are pretty cheap for about $23-$25 a bottle.
    Ok cool....yeah i just looked and they have primaforce in pill form as well...$25.00,120 caps and at 2 caps a day.....id post there nutrient label but im at work..if u look at it.does it seem good..ill check now if they have sns

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    Hey Dewey,one question quick..why exactly does Erase Pro dry your joints up the way it does..does it play thw role similar to a diuretic,although the compound is known to release hormones or test.Im a bit confused.

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    Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Hey Dewey,one question quick..why exactly does Erase Pro dry your joints up the way it does..does it play thw role similar to a diuretic,although the compound is known to release hormones or test.Im a bit confused.
    The main ingredient has a drying effect on your whole body, including your joints.

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    Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Hey Dewey,one question quick..why exactly does Erase Pro dry your joints up the way it does..does it play thw role similar to a diuretic,although the compound is known to release hormones or test.Im a bit confused.

    Its due to decreased estrogen levels, which is very user dependent. You'll notice some people dont experience the dry joints from ED, while others cant take more than 1 capsule every other day. Differing estrogen levels are to blame here.
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    Originally Posted by kevinhy

    Its due to decreased estrogen levels, which is very user dependent. You'll notice some people dont experience the dry joints from ED, while others cant take more than 1 capsule every other day. Differing estrogen levels are to blame here.
    Ok that makes sense...while it decreases estro,its raises test? I thought in any test boosting type supp if test raises naturally estro would raise with it,in most cases atleast.But i guess this is why a sup like DAA works so well with EP

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    Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    I would go with Cissus all day long here. It is more of an anti-inflammatory (you need to take it at least 5-6 hours away from the ArA) than joint lubrication.
    Hey Dewey,

    I'm planning on taking X-Factor and following the instrux of spreading the dosage over the course of the day. Given the time range you said for taking cissus, would it be best to either tak the X-Factor all at once or to save the cissus till the end of the day?

    Thanks for any advice. I've been reading many different views about cissus and ArA.

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    Originally Posted by ricroc

    Hey Dewey,

    I'm planning on taking X-Factor and following the instrux of spreading the dosage over the course of the day. Given the time range you said for taking cissus, would it be best to either tak the X-Factor all at once or to save the cissus till the end of the day?

    Thanks for any advice. I've been reading many different views about cissus and ArA.
    I would take all of your XF at once, before your workout. Take the Cissus 4-5 hours later. If you work out late in the day, reverse it.

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