Lg sciences ph-17
- 02-11-2013, 01:40 AM
- 02-11-2013, 03:33 AM
02-13-2013, 10:37 AM
Question regarding ph 17/19. If they are both more or less dhea, then what makes one better suited for cutting and the other for mass?
I'm no chemist and the nomenclature looks different for each compound, so how then are they both dhea and how do they exert opposite gains?
02-13-2013, 04:36 PM
We have PH17 marketed as being a cutting agent....and PH19(the octopamine in it will help you burn FAT!) marketed as a mass agent. I feel it should be vice versa(except 17PROANDRO makes more sense for it to be marketed as a cutting agent)....these ph's will help RETAIN muscle if not GAIN a little bit of muscle while cutting. When bulking they will have a light muscle building / recovery effect. Thats why I always say keep your expectations low on our ph's.
I'd use 19 over 17, but 17 will work just fine.
You can think of 17 like a winstrol, not going to do you drastically in building muscle, but will help retain it during cutting phases + pretty much no water retention.
17ProAndro I guess can be marketed like a Anavar mimicker...because of the two 17 forms + 3,5,7 AI will ensure you WILL achieve a drier physque by the time the cycle is over.(if you've been a good boy doing your cardio + manipulating macro nutrients aswell!) Won't do you much building muscle wise like real Anavar would, but I hope you get the picture
19 is marketed as Tren mimicker.....well the 6-keto Progesterone + Octopamine.....it IS more anabolic than the 17 + the fat burning/insulin sensitivity effects of the Octo I guess makes sense for it to be marketed as a Tren.
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02-14-2013, 08:15 AM
02-14-2013, 08:59 AM
So a 19 + 17PROAndro should yield some nice recomp, dry gain effect?
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02-14-2013, 09:26 AM
02-14-2013, 03:03 PM
02-16-2013, 06:00 PM
just finished first week of ph 19 at 2.5 ml 4x day. I am up 2-3 lbs which is awesome but really dont see any difference for now. Looking forward to stacking m1d black with it the last 4 weeks then extending just the m1d black at 8 caps a day for 4 extended weeks after finishing ph 19.
02-16-2013, 06:30 PM
02-16-2013, 07:15 PM
Would 17 pro stand alone or stacked with M1 andro be acceptable for a 48 y/o? I have been lifting since college but have never done and PH's. I'm currently 228 at 5' 10" and probably around 18% BF (my guess) I'd like to trim some fat and cut up some while maintaining muscle mass if possible. Just wasn't sure at my age if this would be advisable? Any other suggestions would be welcomed. Any sides I should be careful of?
02-16-2013, 07:24 PM
02-16-2013, 09:47 PM
No health issues, Cholesterol runs consistantly high but other than that no past or present issues.
Training is typically 2 on 1 off, right now its 1)chest/shoulders, 2)Legs, off, 3)Bis/Tris, 4)Back/calves/traps. I don't typicall have light and heavy days but more heavy and if I'm fealing tired or sore I will make that a light day.
Nutrition is mostly clean, probably cheated more lately than I should but getting back on track. I'm at about 2700 - 3000 calories 40/30/30
I see the andro kit has 1 Andro, which would be better to stack with 17 pro, 1 Andro or M1? Or am I confused and they are the same?
Thanks for the help!
02-18-2013, 06:25 PM
02-18-2013, 08:12 PM
Just added a bottle of ph17 to my SD cycle. Had a bottle laying around and decided to use it. I'm on my third day and feeling a thermo effect all day. It feels like summer in the winter lol. I'm dosing 3ml in the morning than 3-4 hours later ill dose another 1.5ml than 3-4 hours another 3ml and last but not least 3-4 hours later another 1.5ml. That's 6 servings per day. So far so good. Only doing one bottle though.
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02-18-2013, 08:20 PM
02-18-2013, 08:22 PM
02-18-2013, 09:26 PM
02-18-2013, 09:38 PM
I just want to make sure when using our PH's your progressing and when progression stops you will know what to do.
If you stack all of those, label rec would be enough to elict a noticeable mass building effect and/or retain if not gain muscle while cutting.
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02-18-2013, 09:39 PM
02-19-2013, 03:23 AM
02-19-2013, 06:24 PM
So, Im almost on week 4 of ph17 and last week I added in ph 19 and I think my left nipple is getting sensitive. Its freaking me out. Could the ph19 be causing this? And what can I do about this? Do I need to discontinue it?
02-19-2013, 08:33 PM
02-19-2013, 08:38 PM
02-19-2013, 08:55 PM
Yeah I figured. I should mention I also added finaflex 550-xd at same time as ph19 which is supposed to convert to nandrolone but also included the arimidex ai like the phs in your andro series.
Obviously no rep is gonna wanna say yeah its our product. I have had nothing but a good experience with 17 so I figure it must be the 19 or the 550.
I was was on amother forum and some people were saying the progestin from the 19 could be a gyno risk but then again so could the nandrolone despite the AI. Last thing I want is to stop but I'm obviously no expert. Any opinions?
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