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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Noshirt52

    i have read 150/100/100/50 ? how exactly is that broken down? by weeks?
    It is broken down by weeks. Would be for 4 weeks total. That sounds like a lot more than necessary but I don't have experience with this particular PH.


  2. ok will do some further research as to what dosage would be proper with this ph.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Noshirt52
    ok will do some further research as to what dosage would be proper with this ph.
    I'm sure someone on here can chime in on it in this thread.

  4. 150 is high for Clomid...could get ****ty sides I'd run 100/50/50/50
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  5. hopefully they will. super nervous about this gyno since i have a slight build up. hopefully the forma will help i read amazing things about it
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    150 is high for Clomid...could get ****ty sides I'd run 100/50/50/50
    ok ill look into that. thanks alot

  7. Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107
    150 is high for Clomid...could get ****ty sides I'd run 100/50/50/50
    To me 100 still seems high. I normally.just recommend nolva at 20/20/10/10 or 40/20/20/10 or the like. I was thinking along the lines of 75/50/50/25 or so or is that not high enough for clomid?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Noshirt52
    hopefully they will. super nervous about this gyno since i have a slight build up. hopefully the forma will help i read amazing things about it
    You may want to consider running a standalone AI and a prolactin blocker alone before a PH to try to remove the gyno issue before exascerbating it.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542

    To me 100 still seems high. I normally.just recommend nolva at 20/20/10/10 or 40/20/20/10 or the like. I was thinking along the lines of 75/50/50/25 or so or is that not high enough for clomid?
    For a ph those doses are good but a longer test cycle I'd do at least 100mg Clomid first 3 days the. 75/50/50/50
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107

    For a ph those doses are good but a longer test cycle I'd do at least 100mg Clomid first 3 days the. 75/50/50/50
    I thought he was running a PH? Am I confusing threads?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Noshirt52
    stats are
    5'10
    weight is 185.5
    lifting experience 4 years
    No need for a PH @ 23,imo..id wait til atleast 25...next time befire u cycle be a bit more educated and have access to a serm.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    No need for a PH @ 23,imo..id wait til atleast 25...next time befire u cycle be a bit more educated and have access to a serm.
    im going to be getting nolva or clomid. Going to do more research.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Noshirt52

    i have only taken sust250 about 4 years ago when first started lifting as a kick start. other then that all otc products. i diet and lift very seriously. i have been itching to do a ph tho. i have all my stuff ordered. i never do cycles and i want to try one out
    Sure thats very smart,take an anabolic substance when u first stary lifting and really know nothing about anything,lol..What a joke!!!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
    To me 100 still seems high. I normally.just recommend nolva at 20/20/10/10 or 40/20/20/10 or the like. I was thinking along the lines of 75/50/50/25 or so or is that not high enough for clomid?
    ive been reading right now and this seems to be what people are doing. thanks

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Sure thats very smart,take an anabolic substance when u first stary lifting and really know nothing about anything,lol..What a joke!!!
    never ever said it was smart. and i regret it now. its the reason i have my mild gyno. Why do u think im taking the precautions i am now?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999

    No need for a PH @ 23,imo..id wait til atleast 25...next time befire u cycle be a bit more educated and have access to a serm.

    I tend to agree with the age but it is also much better than most who get on.here asking for advice.

    Also did you even read this thread at all? He hasn't started yet and has his serm on its way.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    150 is high for Clomid...could get ****ty sides I'd run 100/50/50/50
    Basically, the same. I usually take 100mg the first 2-3 days, then ride out the remaining 4 weeks at 50.

  18. And also: great transformation bud!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
    To me 100 still seems high. I normally.just recommend nolva at 20/20/10/10 or 40/20/20/10 or the like. I was thinking along the lines of 75/50/50/25 or so or is that not high enough for clomid?
    yeah for a PH/DS I do 50/25/25/25 or 50/50/25/25. But for AAS cycles, def bump it up to 100/50/50/50....it sucks, you will be an emotional mess, but its necessary. hell on 25mg per day I'm an emotional mess, just gets a bit worse on double that dose

  20. Quote Originally Posted by schismal View Post
    And also: great transformation bud!
    thanks man i appeciate the compliment and help

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999

    Sure thats very smart,take an anabolic substance when u first stary lifting and really know nothing about anything,lol..What a joke!!!
    Also I notice that almost every thread you post in you rag on the OP. I believe that everyone makes mistakes, especially when they are younger but you sitting on your high horse helps no one. If you have no constructive criticisms or helpful advice (which I have seen neither from you since you joined) then do everyone a favor and don't log on.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    yeah for a PH/DS I do 50/25/25/25 or 50/50/25/25. But for AAS cycles, def bump it up to 100/50/50/50....it sucks, you will be an emotional mess, but its necessary. hell on 25mg per day I'm an emotional mess, just gets a bit worse on double that dose
    ok so should i be going with nolva or clomid for my pct? i have my natural test booster ill be taking to help reboost my natural test but will nolva or clomid help suppress my natural production or increase my hpta?

  23. Some mild PH's Erase Pro plus natty T-booster for 6 weeks with AI added in a few weeks in will do. hell with the androseries supposedly you can get away without the Erase Pro (and its SERM like qualities), and just use DAA/PS/Estrogen control.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
    Also I notice that almost every thread you post in you rag on the OP. I believe that everyone makes mistakes, especially when they are younger but you sitting on your high horse helps no one. If you have no constructive criticisms or helpful advice (which I have seen neither from you since you joined) then do everyone a favor and don't log on.
    thank you jim. If only he understood i do realize it was a mistake and i didnt know much back then

  25. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    Some mild PH's Erase Pro plus natty T-booster for 6 weeks with AI added in a few weeks in will do. hell with the androseries supposedly you can get away without the Erase Pro (and its SERM like qualities), and just use DAA/PS/Estrogen control.
    what is DAA/PS?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Noshirt52 View Post
    ok so should i be going with nolva or clomid for my pct? i have my natural test booster ill be taking to help reboost my natural test but will nolva or clomid help suppress my natural production or increase my hpta?
    Either one will work (at the appropriate dosage, they differ on the dosage necessary)....for 19-nors you should avoid nolva, but other than that? you can use either for the majority of PH/DS/AAS. whatever you can find, clomid is a bitch on sides though....nolva would most likely be much easier on the emotional sides. They both help kickstart your HPTA....an additional natty test booster will aid in natural test production....

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Noshirt52 View Post
    what is DAA/PS?
    DAA= natty test booster
    PS = Phospatidyl Serine (a cortisol control agent)

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Noshirt52

    what is DAA/PS?
    DAA is a test booster, a very effective one I might add, and with PS I am assuming he is referring to prolactin control of some kind.

    As for your other question it is my understanding that clomid is more effective for restoring HPTA while nolva is better for gyno treatment.

    Edit: nevermind he was referring to cortisol control, looking at it it makes more sense so I'm not sure what I was thinking.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    DAA= natty test booster
    PS = Phospatidyl Serine (a cortisol control agent)
    AHHH ok. youve helped me alot and jim as well. Ill be purchasing some nolva and run that along with my test booster the day after my last 2 pills. Ill have an AI forma on hand. (spraying type). quick question. when on cycle if i see that the gyno starts to kick in like itchy nips or puffy should i spot spray the forma on that area only?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
    DAA is a test booster, a very effective one I might add, and with PS I am assuming he is referring to prolactin control of some kind.

    As for your other question it is my understanding that clomid is more effective for restoring HPTA while nolva is better for gyno treatment.
    ok jim thanks alot. im heading out for a bit now ill be back on soon
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