- 10-31-2004, 01:53 AM
This should be a fun one to discuss.
IF it works, it should be a nice product. However, the price is very high, the science/studies are not published, so I see immediate problems.
- 10-31-2004, 02:36 AM
i asked about GHP-2 long tme ago, and no one knew anything about it, as i saw it sold in china.
its suppoed to be ORAL GH.
it dosnt say how much is GHRP-2 are in the VPX product, so mayby its hmeopathic crap
Changes in appetite and body weight in response to long-term oral administration of the ghrelin agonist GHRP-2 in growth hormone deficient children.
Mericq V, Cassorla F, Bowers CY, Avila A, Gonen B, Merriam GR.
Institute of Maternal and Child Research, University of Chile, Santiago, Chile. email@example.com
GHRP-2 (GPA-748, Wyeth-Ayerst) is an orally active peptide growth hormone (GH) secretagogue which acts through a G-protein coupled receptor for which the natural ligand--an acylated 28 amino acid peptide, ghrelin--was recently isolated. Ghrelin and its analogs have potent GH-releasing activities, but in animal studies ghrelin also causes weight gain. As part of a study examining the effect of GHRP-2 on GH secretory dynamics and growth, we evaluated its effects on appetite and body weight. Ten prepubertal children with GH deficiency (growth velocity < or = 4 cm/year in association with a GH response to two provocative stimuli < 10 ng/ml) were included in the study. At the beginning of the study their age was 10.4 +/- 2 years (mean +/- SD), with a height of -3.8 +/- 0.1 SDS. Body mass index (BMI) was 17.9 +/- 3.6 kg/m2, and the BMI Z score 0.21 +/- 1.51 SDS. GHRP-2 was administered orally at a dose of 900 microg/kg b.i.d. for 12 months. Seven out of ten patients reported a significant increase in appetite during the first 6 months of the study. There was a tendency for the BMI SDS to increase during the study, but this increase did not reach statistical significance (0.21 +/- 1.5 vs 0.25 +/- 1.5 SDS). These results suggest that at a dose of 900 microg/kg b.i.d., GHRP-2 appears to have a transient stimulatory effect on appetite, but does not have a chronic clinically significant effect on BMI in children with GH deficiency.
- 10-31-2004, 09:40 AM
how much does it cost? being a VPX product I would imagine its quite expensive.
10-31-2004, 10:06 AM
Retail-$179 for 20 servings. BWAHAHAHAHAH!Originally Posted by blackjack
10-31-2004, 10:19 AM
Homogenetics? I guess $179 is cheap compared to a sex change operation
10-31-2004, 12:02 PM
11-02-2004, 02:55 PM
Severly over-priced. This product is best used for those in their mid 30's and over and it'll take AT LEAST 2-3 cycles to work. Do you have $360-540 laying around? I do enjoy VPX proteins and and I loved Liquid Clenbutrx, but their PH's are WAY out of line.
11-02-2004, 10:50 PM
I can get it 40% off retail.. Still abit much, but I'm kinda tempted..
11-02-2004, 10:58 PM
im not. i want some long-R3 igf
11-02-2004, 11:11 PM
Even better investment..Originally Posted by chasec
11-04-2004, 02:54 AM
i saw chineese chem house selling it long time ago........so you can find it for cheaper price.
11-29-2004, 01:20 AM
lol 179 for 20 days. igf is cheeper for me LOL!!!!! and i bet its 10 times better.
11-29-2004, 01:24 AM
i believe its $120 over at bulknutritionOriginally Posted by dushebag
11-30-2004, 03:02 PM
12-01-2004, 11:09 AM
this stuff has some promise, but not enough for the drastic as usual VPX pricing. poly-lipid delivery system? they can shove it up there ass for a delivery system at that price.
Characteristics of growth hormone secretion responsiveness to growth hormone-releasing peptide-2 (GHRP-2 or KP102) in calves.
Endocr J. 1996 Jun;43(3):291-8.
PMID: 8886623 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
12-01-2004, 01:19 PM
Any idea if this product would even be effective @ the listed dosage?
12-01-2004, 01:22 PM
I think it may be effective over long term usage.Originally Posted by djs2000
12-24-2004, 05:29 PM
It's been a while on this thread, but the review section on 1fast - gives this product 5 stars (out of 5 stars).
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