BCAA ratio

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  1. BCAA ratio


    Im lookin for opinions on what the best ratio is for BCAA's. Im buying powders in bulk and making it myself. I know you want more Leucine.; From my experience ive never noticed a difference anything more than 2:1:1. would there be any more benefit to doing something like 4:1:1


  2. there's benefit in every ratio if that was your question
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  3. Higher ratio of leucine is preferable. I like an 8:1:1 ratio. You could always run leucine instead of a bcaa mix also. However, There is some research out there suggesting there's a need to have all three in a balanced ratio

  4. Quote Originally Posted by sharperunner View Post
    Higher ratio of leucine is preferable. I like an 8:1:1 ratio. You could always run leucine instead of a bcaa mix also. However, There is some research out there suggesting there's a need to have all three in a balanced ratio
    How is 8:1:1 a balanced ratio ?

  5. No need for extra leucine or to supplement with it. It is abundant in food already.

  6. [QUOTE="3utcher"]
    How is 8:1:1 a balanced ratio ?[/QUOTE

    Meaning there's a set ratio(whether it be 2:1:1 or 8:1:1) instead of running leucine solo

  7. A couple years old but pretty good info about ratios.

    BCAA ratios

  8. Quote Originally Posted by 3utcher View Post
    there's benefit in every ratio if that was your question
    i meant what would be optimal for recovery and muscle growh

  9. You're going to get varying opinions on this. I've used leucine solo, eaa's, and every ratio of bcaa's at some point in time. Haven't had one that's jumped out at me that's much better than any other(unless we're talking taste). I think recovery is definitely better using any of them over not using them at all.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    i meant what would be optimal for recovery and muscle growh
    4:1:1 then
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  11. I'll only use 2:1:1 and 4:1:1 but really dont notice a difference between them


  12. There is only a study backing 1 ratio, does that mean it is superior? By no means, it just means the others have not been studied.

  13. Not sure how much it matters besides getting 0.045g-0.06g per kg of body weight of Leucine to maximize muscle protein synthesis. A lot of studies on BCAAs seem pretty dodgy to me unfortunately and personal experience seems to determine what people suggest.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by StackedCop View Post
    I'll only use 2:1:1 and 4:1:1 but really dont notice a difference between them
    same for me!
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Not sure how much it matters besides getting 0.045g-0.06g per kg of body weight to maximize muscle protein synthesis.
    lolwut

    4-5g of BCAA for a 90kg guy ?
    That's like nothing.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by 3utcher View Post
    lolwut

    4-5g of BCAA for a 90kg guy ?
    That's like nothing.
    Sorry I meant Leucine itself.

    Editing post now.

  17. 2:1:1 > every other marketed ratio
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by sharperunner
    Higher ratio of leucine is preferable. I like an 8:1:1 ratio. You could always run leucine instead of a bcaa mix also. However, There is some research out there suggesting there's a need to have all three in a balanced ratio
    Because leucine activate the Mtor pathway, I prefer a higher ratio in the bcaa blend.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by 808shredded

    Because leucine activate the Mtor pathway, I prefer a higher ratio in the bcaa blend.
    Glutamine in conjunction with leucine helps activate the mTORC1.

  20. Seems like a lot of people are reading the Modern BCAA write up.

  21. Interesting nonetheless.

  22. If getting a ratio, go with 2:1:1. Otherwise just buy leucine. Anything > 4:1:1 is just wasted $$ on flavored leucine.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    If getting a ratio, go with 2:1:1. Otherwise just buy leucine. Anything > 4:1:1 is just wasted $$ on flavored leucine.
    Couldn't agree more


  24. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    If getting a ratio, go with 2:1:1. Otherwise just buy leucine. Anything > 4:1:1 is just wasted $$ on flavored leucine.
    Thats what im doing meng! buying my powders in bulk and mixing em. Ill prob just experiment sum more with different ratios.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    If getting a ratio, go with 2:1:1. Otherwise just buy leucine. Anything > 4:1:1 is just wasted $$ on flavored leucine.
    I honestly think this idea of leucine only or higher leucine blends is overrated and full of hype.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Seems like a lot of people are reading the Modern BCAA write up.
    They're not the only ones who made the hype about mTOR and leucine effect on it.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    I honestly think this idea of leucine only or higher leucine blends is overrated and full of hype.
    I know you feel that way after reading your back and forth with dinoiii back in the day. I personally think BCAAs/leucine/etc are mostly hype and premature extrapolations are being made from rat models with respect to actual body composition. But if I had to pick something, it would be leucine, pre-training, fasted

  28. Alot of science behind the 8 to 1 ratio
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by schroedes View Post
    Alot of science behind the 8 to 1 ratio
    No, not really. But leucine, yes.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by schroedes View Post
    Alot of science behind the 8 to 1 ratio
    Where?
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