[machorox123]

Im lookin for opinions on what the best ratio is for BCAA's. Im buying powders in bulk and making it myself. I know you want more Leucine.; From my experience ive never noticed a difference anything more than 2:1:1. would there be any more benefit to doing something like 4:1:1

[3utcher]

there's benefit in every ratio if that was your question

[sharperunner]

Higher ratio of leucine is preferable. I like an 8:1:1 ratio. You could always run leucine instead of a bcaa mix also. However, There is some research out there suggesting there's a need to have all three in a balanced ratio

[3utcher]

Higher ratio of leucine is preferable. I like an 8:1:1 ratio. You could always run leucine instead of a bcaa mix also. However, There is some research out there suggesting there's a need to have all three in a balanced ratio

How is 8:1:1 a balanced ratio ?

[T-Bone]

No need for extra leucine or to supplement with it. It is abundant in food already.

[sharperunner]

[QUOTE="3utcher"]
How is 8:1:1 a balanced ratio ?[/QUOTE

Meaning there's a set ratio(whether it be 2:1:1 or 8:1:1) instead of running leucine solo

[sharperunner]

A couple years old but pretty good info about ratios.

BCAA ratios

[machorox123]

there's benefit in every ratio if that was your question

i meant what would be optimal for recovery and muscle growh

[sharperunner]

You're going to get varying opinions on this. I've used leucine solo, eaa's, and every ratio of bcaa's at some point in time. Haven't had one that's jumped out at me that's much better than any other(unless we're talking taste). I think recovery is definitely better using any of them over not using them at all.

[3utcher]

i meant what would be optimal for recovery and muscle growh

4:1:1 then

[StackedCop]

I'll only use 2:1:1 and 4:1:1 but really dont notice a difference between them

[Diesel0022]

There is only a study backing 1 ratio, does that mean it is superior? By no means, it just means the others have not been studied.

[bolt10]

Not sure how much it matters besides getting 0.045g-0.06g per kg of body weight of Leucine to maximize muscle protein synthesis. A lot of studies on BCAAs seem pretty dodgy to me unfortunately and personal experience seems to determine what people suggest.

[criticalbench]

I'll only use 2:1:1 and 4:1:1 but really dont notice a difference between them

same for me!

[3utcher]

Not sure how much it matters besides getting 0.045g-0.06g per kg of body weight to maximize muscle protein synthesis.

lolwut

4-5g of BCAA for a 90kg guy ?
That's like nothing.

[bolt10]

lolwut

4-5g of BCAA for a 90kg guy ?
That's like nothing.

Sorry I meant Leucine itself.

Editing post now.

[JudoJosh]

2:1:1 > every other marketed ratio

[808shredded]

Higher ratio of leucine is preferable. I like an 8:1:1 ratio. You could always run leucine instead of a bcaa mix also. However, There is some research out there suggesting there's a need to have all three in a balanced ratio

Because leucine activate the Mtor pathway, I prefer a higher ratio in the bcaa blend.

[Bamski]

Because leucine activate the Mtor pathway, I prefer a higher ratio in the bcaa blend.

Glutamine in conjunction with leucine helps activate the mTORC1.

[T-Bone]

Seems like a lot of people are reading the Modern BCAA write up.

[Bamski]

Interesting nonetheless.

[mr.cooper69]

If getting a ratio, go with 2:1:1. Otherwise just buy leucine. Anything > 4:1:1 is just wasted $$ on flavored leucine.

[StackedCop]

If getting a ratio, go with 2:1:1. Otherwise just buy leucine. Anything > 4:1:1 is just wasted $$ on flavored leucine.

Couldn't agree more

[machorox123]

If getting a ratio, go with 2:1:1. Otherwise just buy leucine. Anything > 4:1:1 is just wasted $$ on flavored leucine.

Thats what im doing meng! buying my powders in bulk and mixing em. Ill prob just experiment sum more with different ratios.

[JudoJosh]

If getting a ratio, go with 2:1:1. Otherwise just buy leucine. Anything > 4:1:1 is just wasted $$ on flavored leucine.

I honestly think this idea of leucine only or higher leucine blends is overrated and full of hype.

[3utcher]

Seems like a lot of people are reading the Modern BCAA write up.

They're not the only ones who made the hype about mTOR and leucine effect on it.

[mr.cooper69]

I honestly think this idea of leucine only or higher leucine blends is overrated and full of hype.

I know you feel that way after reading your back and forth with dinoiii back in the day. I personally think BCAAs/leucine/etc are mostly hype and premature extrapolations are being made from rat models with respect to actual body composition. But if I had to pick something, it would be leucine, pre-training, fasted

[schroedes]

Alot of science behind the 8 to 1 ratio

[mr.cooper69]

Alot of science behind the 8 to 1 ratio

No, not really. But leucine, yes.

[Aleksandar37]

Alot of science behind the 8 to 1 ratio

Where?