Endurance and pumps are the most pronounced effects from Agmatine for myself. I do 4 caps /45-60 pre wo
Personally, I'd drop the gatorade. Too much sugar for my preferance. However agmatine and caffeine is a cheap and effective pre WO. As koko mentions, Beta Alanine @ 2 g twice per day (one dose pre WO if preferred) is a great addition to any home made pre WO. As for agmatine dosing some find their sweet spot to be as low as 500 mg while others, myself included, prefer to go to 1-1.5 g pre WO. I know some members on this board who go up to 2.5 g pre WO :jaw: . Just play around with the dosing and see what works for you.
This^^^ And I prefer Powerade Zero to Gatorade. Gives you the flavoring without all the damn sugar.
I LOVE agmatine. Personally I find it gives a ton of benefits for a reasonable price (especially with the SNS 100g tub). As far as a cheap pre-workout made from bulk ingredients SNS Caffeine + SNS Agmatine should be great. If you don't have creatine right now tho I would suggest that addition to any stack (mono can be dirt cheap and MCC isn't too bad a price either) and SNS Citrulline Malate provides great pumps and endurance as well.
SNS Caffeine Tabs are 200mg, break in half = 100mg.
Citrulline Malate? It's not necessary, but it's a studied and proven supplement. 4-6g for pumps/aerobic benefits, 8-9g for recovery/anaerobic benefits.
Best deal on caffeine tabs.
With what goal in mind?
Go with 6g.
The 501 count bottle is a ridiculous value for all the caffeine a stim junkie could ever want.
No better combination then agmatine and citrulline malate pre workout!The 501 count bottle is a ridiculous value for all the caffeine a stim junkie could ever want.
I personally like taking ~.5-1g of our Agmatine combined with 6-9g of Citrulline Malate.
While Agmatine is great, Citrulline Malate is far and away one of my favorite supplements in our line - the myriad of benefits it provides are beyond awesome. One product that provides recovery, endurance, pumps, and some other nice extras too?
I'll take it - and for ~$25 for 300g, it's a hell of a good deal too.
add gms and norvaline.. BOOM
I agree cit mal, agmatine,gms and norvaline makes an excellent pre workout concoction....... wait a minute I think I know one that has all these and comes in a delicious lemondrop flavor
That's just Focus XT+hemavol
haha yup great combo right thereThat's just Focus XT+hemavol
YEP!!!!!!
Thats crazy havent tried that combo yet but I do have all three on hand..... Things could get awesome on monday
That sounds like an awesome combo right there! I will have to try that out!
Do it!!! its awesome, cheap and effective
Invincible
Pretty much, now that stim-free is available, the stacks are double limitless.
Indeed!
Just a question: What are these values based on? Personal experience?
Scientific studies I believe.
Studies (supporting the aerobic/anaerobic doses) that have influenced my personal dosing, thus creating personal experience as well.
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