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    Some Agmatine/Pre Workout Help??


    So its getting expensive buying pre workouts. Im wondering though is Agmatine any good for strength/endurance or just pumps?

    For a cheap Pre Workout is:

    Gatorade
    Agmatine
    Caffeine Pill

    Is that an ok Pre Workout?

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    Sure. I like beta alanine agmatine and a caffeine pill
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    It is fine and cost effective. I am not a big fan of Gatorade.
    Agmatine really is awesome though.
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    How is Agmatine for Endurance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmazingAJ View Post
    How is Agmatine for Endurance?
    Endurance and pumps are the most pronounced effects from Agmatine for myself. I do 4 caps /45-60 pre wo

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmazingAJ View Post
    So its getting expensive buying pre workouts. Im wondering though is Agmatine any good for strength/endurance or just pumps?

    For a cheap Pre Workout is:

    Gatorade
    Agmatine
    Caffeine Pill

    Is that an ok Pre Workout?
    Personally, I'd drop the gatorade. Too much sugar for my preferance. However agmatine and caffeine is a cheap and effective pre WO. As koko mentions, Beta Alanine @ 2 g twice per day (one dose pre WO if preferred) is a great addition to any home made pre WO. As for agmatine dosing some find their sweet spot to be as low as 500 mg while others, myself included, prefer to go to 1-1.5 g pre WO. I know some members on this board who go up to 2.5 g pre WO . Just play around with the dosing and see what works for you.
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    Stock up on SNS Caffeine Tabs and Agmatine Powder for cheap.

    Gatorade to flavor the agmatine if needed, otherwise won't really matter.
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    I need to get low dose caffeine. No cplode is too much for me. 100mg would b cool. Anyone know where i cam get them? And **** pumps and endurance is all i need!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kokobeware2 View Post
    Sure. I like beta alanine agmatine and a caffeine pill
    This^^^ And I prefer Powerade Zero to Gatorade. Gives you the flavoring without all the damn sugar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmazingAJ View Post
    So its getting expensive buying pre workouts. Im wondering though is Agmatine any good for strength/endurance or just pumps?

    For a cheap Pre Workout is:

    Gatorade
    Agmatine
    Caffeine Pill

    Is that an ok Pre Workout?
    I LOVE agmatine. Personally I find it gives a ton of benefits for a reasonable price (especially with the SNS 100g tub). As far as a cheap pre-workout made from bulk ingredients SNS Caffeine + SNS Agmatine should be great. If you don't have creatine right now tho I would suggest that addition to any stack (mono can be dirt cheap and MCC isn't too bad a price either) and SNS Citrulline Malate provides great pumps and endurance as well.

    Just throwing some things out there to get ya thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmazingAJ View Post
    I need to get low dose caffeine. No cplode is too much for me. 100mg would b cool. Anyone know where i cam get them? And **** pumps and endurance is all i need!
    SNS Caffeine Tabs are 200mg, break in half = 100mg.
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    Will order some. How necissary is citrulene? Also while i wait for Caf pills any one know where i can buy them at stores?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmazingAJ View Post
    Will order some. How necissary is citrulene? Also while i wait for Caf pills any one know where i can buy them at stores?
    Citrulline Malate? It's not necessary, but it's a studied and proven supplement. 4-6g for pumps/aerobic benefits, 8-9g for recovery/anaerobic benefits.

    Most pharmacies/stores will have No Doz or some other similar caffeine pills.
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    I would add all of this up because your question was about a cheap pre-workout to which my answer is still yes to what you originally suggested. Once you start adding in all this other stuff, you have to question if it is still cheaper and, if so, if it is a big enough price difference to have to worry about making your own or carrying around all these pills. There are a lot of great deals online.
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    Thats exactly it. Agmatine and caf is good. But once i start adding other stuff it winds up being like 5 bucks less a month as opposed to 20 lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by NomZ View Post
    SNS Caffeine Tabs are 200mg, break in half = 100mg.
    Best deal on caffeine tabs.

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    How much citrulene do u really need to be effective?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmazingAJ View Post
    How much citrulene do u really need to be effective?
    With what goal in mind?

    Pump? 3-4g
    Aerobic benefits? 6g
    Anaerobic benefits/recovery? 8g
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    Pumps and endurance
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmazingAJ View Post
    Pumps and endurance
    Go with 6g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackedCop View Post
    Best deal on caffeine tabs.
    The 501 count bottle is a ridiculous value for all the caffeine a stim junkie could ever want.

    I personally like taking ~.5-1g of our Agmatine combined with 6-9g of Citrulline Malate.

    While Agmatine is great, Citrulline Malate is far and away one of my favorite supplements in our line - the myriad of benefits it provides are beyond awesome. One product that provides recovery, endurance, pumps, and some other nice extras too?

    I'll take it - and for ~$25 for 300g, it's a hell of a good deal too.
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    more expensive then caffeine pills but i do focus xt with 6 grams cit mal 1 gram agmatine and its amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleWade View Post
    The 501 count bottle is a ridiculous value for all the caffeine a stim junkie could ever want.

    I personally like taking ~.5-1g of our Agmatine combined with 6-9g of Citrulline Malate.

    While Agmatine is great, Citrulline Malate is far and away one of my favorite supplements in our line - the myriad of benefits it provides are beyond awesome. One product that provides recovery, endurance, pumps, and some other nice extras too?

    I'll take it - and for ~$25 for 300g, it's a hell of a good deal too.
    No better combination then agmatine and citrulline malate pre workout!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackedCop View Post
    No better combination then agmatine and citrulline malate pre workout!
    add gms and norvaline.. BOOM
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackedCop View Post
    No better combination then agmatine and citrulline malate pre workout!
    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    add gms and norvaline.. BOOM
    I agree cit mal, agmatine,gms and norvaline makes an excellent pre workout concoction....... wait a minute I think I know one that has all these and comes in a delicious lemondrop flavor
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4

    I agree cit mal, agmatine,gms and norvaline makes an excellent pre workout concoction....... wait a minute I think I know one that has all these and comes in a delicious lemondrop flavor
    That's just Focus XT+hemavol
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    That's just Focus XT+hemavol
    haha yup great combo right there
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4

    haha yup great combo right there
    YEP!!!!!!
    craze+focus xt+hemavol is off the chain
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    YEP!!!!!!
    craze+focus xt+hemavol is off the chain
    Thats crazy havent tried that combo yet but I do have all three on hand..... Things could get awesome on monday
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4 View Post
    more expensive then caffeine pills but i do focus xt with 6 grams cit mal 1 gram agmatine and its amazing
    That sounds like an awesome combo right there! I will have to try that out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLW2 View Post
    That sounds like an awesome combo right there! I will have to try that out!
    Do it!!! its awesome, cheap and effective
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4

    Thats crazy havent tried that combo yet but I do have all three on hand..... Things could get awesome on monday
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    Focus xt is so affordable and awesome the stacks are limitless
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Focus xt is so affordable and awesome the stacks are limitless
    Pretty much, now that stim-free is available, the stacks are double limitless.
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    iforce hemavol that is all
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    Quote Originally Posted by NomZ
    Pretty much, now that stim-free is available, the stacks are double limitless.
    Indeed!
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    If I might chime in,
    I am not a big supplement user.
    Just a Multi vitamin and fish oil, and creatine,
    I don't even use protein powder.
    However since I can afford to experiment, if something looks interesting I'll give it a cycle or two. Well since joining this board three new supplements have become staples for me, and I will continue using them.
    Agmatine, citruline malate, and beta alanine.
    All are proven supplements, and I have noticed dramatic effects since I've been using them.
    So there is my unsolicited, and unasked for
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    For me the best combo - GPLC+Agmatine+Citruline+Cocoa Powder..INSANE PUMPS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmazingAJ View Post
    How much citrulene do u really need to be effective?
    Quote Originally Posted by NomZ View Post
    With what goal in mind?

    Pump? 3-4g
    Aerobic benefits? 6g
    Anaerobic benefits/recovery? 8g
    Just a question: What are these values based on? Personal experience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenhulk View Post
    Just a question: What are these values based on? Personal experience?
    Scientific studies I believe.
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