Natural Anabolic Stack

[Stupes]

Plus if you're running into a cycle right after osta, who cares if it shuts you down a bit....you're getting shut down for sure during your PH/DS/AAS cycle upcoming ANYWAYS .....

Agreed - as long as it doesn't really shut-down or weaken HPTA. But it is very important if it shuts-down substantially and you want to limit your shut-down time in an effort to quickly restore HPTA following the cycle. I am not saying that 20mg of Osta shuts down HPTA to a level that would effect recovery - I don't think anyone definitively knows that answer right now.

[Celorza]

Stopped reading after a while haha you remind me of me when I was 16 and didn't wanna lose. The Biochem is grad actually...now he ran the steady doses for complete periods of analysts , IE not varying it over 1 or 2 weeks but rather at the 4 week marks, anyhow I do not have to defend HIS study haha that's for him to do, as to why bother hijacking a thread like this with your attitude is really sad xD again, take me up on PMs and I'll speak more freely , I do not enjoy taking it out in the public, but some people love attention. I told yah I am not gonna argue here, OP asked something and all you do is mind me? Ah god...offer still stands, make a worthy contribution or just stop and get over it, if not well keep on by yourself haha. I already know that study and I aint in the mood got arguing for your sole ego and wish to attempt to correct me , when it's not the meaning of the thread.

[Celorza]

Oh it seems you did contribute with Erase yet again. Like I said , I love the supp, I just don't see it as a requirement for enhanced natural anabolism like he asked. All this over erase? Damn haha I love PES and the versatility Erase poses for stacking, I just didn't see it needed to the approach I proposed on accordance to the question and info given by OP

[fightbackhxc]

Fixed, its a suicidal AI. If you want a natural ANABOLIC stack look into AnaBeta Elite and Xgels.

Good dosing would be:

X-gels=10 caps preworkout (only on workout days, no off days for xgels)
ABE=4 caps a day
Agmatine Sulfate=1g preworkout

That would be more anabolic...than running a testosterone booster which is well...that haha. Even though ABE has shown to increase testosterone levels, the main point of the supplement is to promote Anabolism, and Arachidonic Acid does this as well.

For further Gains I would recommend adding:

Reduce-XT and Ergobolic for Cortisol control.

Keep kCalories high, and please dose the preworkout recommendations on an empty stomach. Space ArA away from any joint, anti-inflamatory supps and any kind of fish oils (which are basically that too).

Ostarine is not natural...Dermacrine is a perfect DHEA bloat and stay natty IMO...Run Recompadrol too, I love it lol.

I like this but if you decide to run earse and xgels or reduce xt and xgels I would reccomend picking up some kind of joint support.

[Stupes]

Oh it seems you did contribute with Erase yet again. Like I said , I love the supp, I just don't see it as a requirement for enhanced natural anabolism like he asked.

Who said it's a requirement? Not me, nor anyone else. Again, you are assuming. I just said there is no need to take it off the table, which is what you were doing.

All this over erase?

Nope - all this because I asked why you were telling him not to do Erase because it would be in front of a cycle. Then you blew it up - go back and read.

Damn haha I love PES and the versatility Erase poses for stacking, I just didn't see it needed to the approach I proposed on accordance to the question and info given by OP

That's fine - that's perfectly reasonable. Just say that in the first place - something like "Heading into an AAS cycle, you may want to stay away from products that effect hormone levels such as Erase." Then give your suggestion. Instead of telling guys they are flat out wrong for suggesting Erase. thanks

[kevinhy]

I just got a free bottle of Anabeta. I've used it before and do like it. Nothing spectacular in feel but it does help pack on the weight.
I have most of my supps for my fall/winter bulk set up, except for November. As long as I can keep it cheap I want to run the ultimate natural anabolic stack. This will be right before my ph/ass cycle. Here is what I plan to run so far:

Anabeta- Def helped me put on extra LBM
Recompadrol- my favorite GDA. Works as described.
Phyto Testosterone- Haven't ran this but it gets great reviews and comes from a great company. Recomended to run for 8 weeks to see full effects, so I will run it the month before this stack. Should let me know what I'm dealing with.
Food- a **** ton of this, and then some more.

Other ideas:
Dermacrine
Ostarine

I know those aren't exactly natural but arnt exactly the dark side either.

Suggestions for other natural anabolics, stacks, reviews of phyto test, thoughts on this stack ect; all wanted.

Mucho gracias.

Anabeta Elite is a solid option, but seeing as how you already have OG anabeta I would just run with that.

If you're straight going for bulk I'd also consider adding in some DAA.

Erase can be used if you're wishing to keep things dryer.