Supplement Advice: Too much or not enough?
- 07-28-2012, 02:12 AM
- 07-28-2012, 02:16 AM
Originally Posted by ToNNNNyT
Also, I haven't really looked into Dexaprine. I will do a bit of research, thanks for the tips!
07-28-2012, 02:18 AM
Why nootropics? Could you elaborate a bit? Also, I am thinking the ZMA is only beneficial when I am training my hardest; when I was doing Triathlon I found it helpful.Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego
07-28-2012, 02:38 AM
07-28-2012, 03:03 AM
Cool, will do. One quick question: I have heard mixed reviews on spiro. Have you noticed it makes/made a difference? Which brand do you use?Originally Posted by bigbb123
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Nootropics boost cognitive function (learning/mathematic skills/unstanding etc.. are improved) and usually play as anti-oxidants and neuroprotectors
Nootropic, "Nootropics, also referred to as smart drugs, memory enhancers, neuro enhancers, cognitive enhancers, and intelligence enhancers, are drugs, supplements, nutraceuticals, and functional foods that improve mental functions such as cognition, memory, intelligence, motivation, attention, and concentration."
Long term use is somewhat necessary to feel effect
07-28-2012, 12:42 PM
Hey, I'm familiar with nootropics, but when I asked you to elaborate I was wondering how they might help me on my path to recomposition. At least, that's how I read your first recommendation for nootropics - that they might somehow aid the process.Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego
07-28-2012, 01:32 PM
I live in Canada so I tend to purchase what I can over here to save on Shipping costs..but typically most people go for at least 5g BCAA a serving (at various ratios...i don't care...I've never noticed a difference..I don't even know it BCAAs work lol). Some hard-core junkies will use up-to 30g daily. But you have to take into account that you might be already be getting enough from your diet and Whey powders alone. I myself use MVP Power Mass Leangainer Whey powder which contains 12g BCAAs per serving plus I use there (Revive Recovery Agent which contains another 5g BCAAs) but I only use Revive after my liftin weight workouts (3 days wk). An (MVP: Power Mass) equivalent for USA would be (Ultimate Nutrition: ISO Mass Xtreme (I love this stuff cept sum ppl cant take the fishy smell), but it has an almost exact same profile as MVP with loads of BCAAs, Creatine, Glutamine, Healthy Fats, Multi-Vitamin, etc... so basically I don't even need extra BCAAs..but I take them anyhow... plus BCAAs supposedly help stimulate fat-loss... building/keeping more muscle... means less fat they say. I started out at 236lbs 25-30% fat ..went thru countless Whey powders, etc .. and these two really made the best difference for myself. Diet is still King.. w/o it nothing is gonna budge and yes there geared towards hard-gainers but I still say I was big and fatty but still classify myself as a hard-gainer for muscle...so once I had my diet spot on (mostly pure vegan at this point) i dropped to 179lbs fast doing a crazy 900-1200calories daily ...When I was happy with that...I was weak and scrawny as hell..but down to 11-12% fat... Finally I started on Whey powders... raised myself to maintenance 2500+ clean calories but now including extra lean turkey,chicken, Salmon and Sole plus all veggies/fruits, Sweet Potatoes, eggs, Non Fat Greek Yogurt, Cottage Cheese and Milk, etc.. all the crap I didn't want to eat...but I feel better than ever and i managed to get back to 190lbs pretty easily..but i dropped to 9-10% fat..which was unreal for me.. I eat the exact same thing everyday for last 2 yrs to maintain
and just recently..had to try some GMO doritos and ice cream.. so i gained another 8lbs ..but at a 12-13% expense ..but hey.. its far cry coming from 25% : ) so it can be done ! ..sorry for long winded post..im like my sister.. we go on forever (off topic lol)..i cant stand readin her long crap neither..haha
07-28-2012, 02:29 PM
07-28-2012, 05:55 PM
Hey, thanks for the recommendations I'll check out the ON BCAAs. And, congratulations on your body recomposition!Originally Posted by aLinux
07-28-2012, 05:55 PM
07-28-2012, 08:33 PM
I would suggest a 12:1:1 bcaa ratio. Topical spiro was indeed effective for me, some people report side effects, I have not experienced any. In my opinion, once you finish what you have for supplements, stick the following. There is so much stuff out there that just looks so cool, it's tempting, but make no mistake supplements can be physiologically addicting. Stick to the proven basics, trust me, half the stuff out there is crap.Originally Posted by Orion17
Ok here we go:
1. Creatine, I perfer magnesium Creatine chelate over mono, no stomach issues
2. Beta alanine
4. Fat burner like oep
6. ZMA love it or hate it I find it works
7. Erase and DAA, your not some 20 year old
Kid and propecia has probably done a number on your hormone balance, so I think it will be rather effective for you
8. Fishoil and a b-complex
9. Libido supplements like maca are fine but trib Is garbage. Get yourself some 40%percent icariin. If you must and you will notice a difference in erection quality that is for sure
10. Since you are recomping a good GDA like slin sane or glycobol could be beneficiall
I reiterate fight the temptation for endless supplements and once you come off propecia and your body restores your natural hormone levels watch the magic happen in the gym and in the bedroom, that is the best advice I can give you.
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I use the 5% minoxidil and Azelaic acid combo and sometimes the topical spiro ....with the 2% nizoral . These come in 60ml bottles with spray or dropper tops. From wholesale hair products. I use them as a preventative measure....so can't comment on regrowth but they seem to reduce sheddingOriginally Posted by Orion17
07-29-2012, 04:59 AM
A final word: You mentioned in your initial post that your life has been somewhat stressful, eliminate the stress. Stress will destroy your gains in gym, add bodyfat, its just a mess. Take up boxing, thats what i did, youl melt fat off and leave it all in the gym. Youd be surprised how your body will react to less stress in your life. I get my spiro from wholesale like the above poster mentioned, its liquid.
07-29-2012, 05:01 AM
07-29-2012, 08:26 PM
Also, thanks for the idea about simply adding leucine to the Bulk Modern - Great Idea!
As for the stress, teaching is stressful. I hear you on reducing it and thanks for your advice/concern... I am optimistic that this year will be better; however, teaching in a public school has its challenges. I had been thinking about doing CrossFit, but I may not be able to work that into my schedule this semester.
02-11-2013, 01:58 PM
In reply to "I am wondering which BCAAs you would recommend - brand name, amount?"
Scivation Xtend - 1 scoop on w/o days = 7grams BCAAs, if your in Canada another really
good one is Revive Recovery X2 Agent when its on sale is OK stuff, too. Sorry for the
late reply, this board doesn't e-mail when there's a reply.
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