[Clemenza]

Just saw on the PES facebook page they are releasing their new fat burner very soon.

Anyone have the details yet? Name? Supplement facts?

I'm pumped for this. Knowing PES I'm sure it's gonna be the real deal.

[SLW2]

Subbed for more info!

[nattydisaster]

I know all the details...

[T-Bone]

Déjà vu

[AZMIDLYF]

I know all the details...

Cruel and unusual right there^^^ Lol

Aug. 1st is the date I read for the release

[djbombsquad]

Do we need a new fat burner when there are so many on the market.

[csa2179]

Do we need a new fat burner when there are so many on the market.

yes we also need more wiener pills. and pills that make you take bigger crap's

[djbombsquad]

Pointless. I think rather than come out with new product lets improve delivery first.

[boogyman]

I would think if its being released beginning of August some information should be given soon. Advertising usually helps sales lol.

[R1balla]

August first I believe. And if it's from natty, it will be top line

[Geoforce]

August first it's coming out or August 1st details?

[Rodja]

Pointless. I think rather than come out with new product lets improve delivery first.

Ye have little faith in innovation. While "fat burners" are ubiquitous on the market, most are mundane, ineffective, and unoriginal. This one, however, shall not be the same.

[AZMIDLYF]

Ye have little faith in innovation. While "fat burners" are ubiquitous on the market, most are mundane, ineffective, and unoriginal. This one, however, shall not be the same.

You had me at ubiquitous...

[Ev52]

Pointless. I think rather than come out with new product lets improve delivery first.

There is no need to improve delivery for certain ingredients. Sometimes slow released delivery is not best....

[Geoforce]

Do we need a new fat burner when there are so many on the market.

If the amount of fat burners on the market were truly effective we wouldn't need as many. We'd just take the ones that work. Clearly we aren't all walking around with six packs...I'd say improvements in the area could certainly be made by companies. Wouldn't you agree?

[D3Baseball]

My honest sentiment is that PES hasn't always struck gold with their releases, but I admire the desire to do something new and it is necessary to push the industry forward. Erase is an example of striking gold. If PES keeps taking risks, only good should come of it in the long run.

[Geoforce]

My honest sentiment is that PES hasn't always struck gold with their releases, but I admire the desire to do something new and it is necessary to push the industry forward. Erase is an example of striking gold. If PES keeps taking risks, only good should come of it in the long run.

I like this. You have to take risks to innovate and where would we be in any industry if people were happy with what had already been done? It's part of the reason I like working for Matt. He's constantly looking for the next thing, the better thing than what we already have and what's already being done. A few other companies are like this and I view PES as one as well. I'm glad we have companies that want to take those risks because that's where the potential for true innovation lies.

[mr.cooper69]

Pointless. I think rather than come out with new product lets improve delivery first.

LOL is this like an indirect push of ageforce? I seriously hope you're joking. You don't know a single ingredient in the formula yet you've already concluded that the oral bioavailability is too low.

If anything, you would NOT want a time-released fat burner because the therapeutic windows for many of the ingredients implicated in lipolysis (namely stimulants like caffeine, yohimbine, etc) have a lower limit well above zero.

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Subbed for awesome PES news. Please keep it off the shelves at *** though. For Blake.

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Subbed for awesome PES news. Please keep it off the shelves at *** though. For Blake.

Stars are so mysterious

[Ev52]

LOL is this like an indirect push of ageforce? I seriously hope you're joking. You don't know a single ingredient in the formula yet you've already concluded that the oral bioavailability is too low.

If anything, you would NOT want a time-released fat burner because the therapeutic windows for many of the ingredients implicated in lipolysis (namely stimulants like caffeine, yohimbine, etc) have a lower limit well above zero.

Exactly!

[T-Bone]

I'm definitely gonna be trying it out.

[djbombsquad]

LOL is this like an indirect push of ageforce? I seriously hope you're joking. You don't know a single ingredient in the formula yet you've already concluded that the oral bioavailability is too low.

If anything, you would NOT want a time-released fat burner because the therapeutic windows for many of the ingredients implicated in lipolysis (namely stimulants like caffeine, yohimbine, etc) have a lower limit well above zero.

No, not trying to push anything or direct this at any company, sorry for stirring things up. Time and time again I have pointed out the numerous supplement scams that are out in the marketplace in the past. There are far more worthless supplements out there than I have time or energy to spend on but that was the only reason I responded the way I did but apologize for making this worse.

[Celorza]

No, not trying to push anything or direct this at any company, sorry for stirring things up. Time and time again I have pointed out the numerous supplement scams that are out in the marketplace in the past. There are far more worthless supplements out there than I have time or energy to spend on but that was the only reason I responded the way I did but apologize for making this worse.

As a rep for a respectable company , you should watch out more for what you say...and for that matter, the grammar (if any) presented in your posts. Lack of proper structuring of a sentence can lead to many misunderstandings which, in your position as a rep, can become liabilities .

I think you meant no harm in your post before...just say it in a nicer, more constructive way.

[T-Bone]

Just saw on the PES facebook page they are releasing their new fat burner very soon.

Anyone have the details yet? Name? Supplement facts?

I'm pumped for this. Knowing PES I'm sure it's gonna be the real deal.

I really hope you win Hell's Kitchen this year!

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[Clemenza]

I really hope you win Hell's Kitchen this year!

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Haha! Well now you know why I'm dying to try the new PES fat burner. Lol

I Actually got Clemenza from The Godfather. Both clemenzas look exactly alike though.

[Clemenza]

[steppinRazor]

No, not trying to push anything or direct this at any company, sorry for stirring things up. Time and time again I have pointed out the numerous supplement scams that are out in the marketplace in the past. There are far more worthless supplements out there than I have time or energy to spend on but that was the only reason I responded the way I did but apologize for making this worse.

yeah im not buyin it bro. if you werent implying a transdermal (ageforce) approach is superior, then what exactly were you trying to say?

and taking cheap shots at PES?? really dude? you're far beyond your element my friend.
my business stays with PES because their products work, and work well. and thats more than i can say about ageforce. i tried the test boosting patch and couldnt have been more disapointed in a product. the only thing it really did for me was leave little strips of adhesive on my skin that were a pain in the ass to scrub off.

[AZMIDLYF]

Stars are so mysterious

**** *** FL3X!

[Clemenza]

yeah im not buyin it bro. if you werent implying a transdermal (ageforce) approach is superior, then what exactly were you trying to say?

and taking cheap shots at PES?? really dude? you're far beyond your element my friend.
my business stays with PES because their products work, and work well. and thats more than i can say about ageforce. i tried the test boosting patch and couldnt have been more disapointed in a product. the only thing it really did for me was leave little strips of adhesive on my skin that were a pain in the ass to scrub off.

I didn't really want to jump on the flame bandwagon but what previous posters and Razor said really sums it up.

I give a ton of credit to companies like PES who spend countless hours and resources into researching new ingredients and working to put together a new formula, all the while knowing they're taking a risk in the free market.

My hats off to them. And I'd bet all my money that they'll be bringing something innovative to the table in this new fat burner.