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    Quote Originally Posted by mik14
    Anyone tried 'pes shift' . Was looking for some natty sups for cutting and I know erase pro works well so was wondering if anyone has feedback on the pea shift.
    Shift will get your metabolism revving and a good alternative to a stim based burner. Expect to sweat!

    I'm a big fan of Alpha T2 , as I've found it very effective and not over stimulating
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    Shift will get your metabolism revving and a good alternative to a stim based burner. Expect to sweat!

    I'm a big fan of Alpha T2 , as I've found it very effective and not over stimulating
    Thanks for the feedback. I already sweat alot while training, i was planning on a thermogenic and was going to add in a fat metaboliser so yeah I guess there will be a lot of sweat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    Shift will get your metabolism revving and a good alternative to a stim based burner. Expect to sweat!

    I'm a big fan of Alpha T2 , as I've found it very effective and not over stimulating
    I've been through several bottles of Shift, and I didn't get the sweats or anything else for that matter. How much of a stim effect does one get from T2? I need to stay stim free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crewchief182 View Post
    I've been through several bottles of Shift, and I didn't get the sweats or anything else for that matter. How much of a stim effect does one get from T2? I need to stay stim free.
    Varies from person to person. I don't get any stim effect out of it, but others get a decent buzz from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crewchief182

    I've been through several bottles of Shift, and I didn't get the sweats or anything else for that matter. How much of a stim effect does one get from T2? I need to stay stim free.
    I feel very good energy. But not jittery or racy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crewchief182 View Post
    I've been through several bottles of Shift, and I didn't get the sweats or anything else for that matter. How much of a stim effect does one get from T2? I need to stay stim free.
    Stim effect in my experience with T2 is pretty minimal. It was noticeable for the first week to a small extent and then not much in that department. It really isn't designed as a heavy stim so I think you should be ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crewchief182 View Post
    I've been through several bottles of Shift, and I didn't get the sweats or anything else for that matter. How much of a stim effect does one get from T2? I need to stay stim free.
    very little to no stim for me from At2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Stim effect in my experience with T2 is pretty minimal. It was noticeable for the first week to a small extent and then not much in that department. It really isn't designed as a heavy stim so I think you should be ok.
    Excellent, thank you. I shall give this a try. Love PES, but with shift, I guess I was a "non-responder".
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    Quote Originally Posted by crewchief182 View Post
    Excellent, thank you. I shall give this a try. Love PES, but with shift, I guess I was a "non-responder".
    I got much better results with AT2 than Shift and I ran Shift more than once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    I got much better results with AT2 than Shift and I ran Shift more than once.
    same, but love both
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    Quote Originally Posted by crewchief182 View Post
    Excellent, thank you. I shall give this a try. Love PES, but with shift, I guess I was a "non-responder".
    Some people dont even feel moderately high doses of T3, so you're probably one of those guys.

    Alpha-T2 is essentially stimulant free for me, it provides a very small amount of "clean" energy, so I would absolutely still recommend it for those wishing to stay stim-free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy View Post
    Some people dont even feel moderately high doses of T3, so you're probably one of those guys.

    Alpha-T2 is essentially stimulant free for me, it provides a very small amount of "clean" energy, so I would absolutely still recommend it for those wishing to stay stim-free.
    Thanks for the info, much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crewchief182 View Post
    Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

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    I am pretty confident that I could take Alpha-T2 before bed without it interrupting my sleep at all.

    Admittedly I can occasionally take 800mg of caffeine pre training though so my stimulant tolerance is higher than average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I am pretty confident that I could take Alpha-T2 before bed without it interrupting my sleep at all.

    Admittedly I can occasionally take 800mg of caffeine pre training though so my stimulant tolerance is higher than average.
    And I was worried about my 300mg!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I am pretty confident that I could take Alpha-T2 before bed without it interrupting my sleep at all.

    Admittedly I can occasionally take 800mg of caffeine pre training though so my stimulant tolerance is higher than average.
    800mg! My heart might stop
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc
    I am pretty confident that I could take Alpha-T2 before bed without it interrupting my sleep at all.

    Admittedly I can occasionally take 800mg of caffeine pre training though so my stimulant tolerance is higher than average.
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