Now I Remember Why I Love PES and AnaBeta

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Started taking AnaBeta yesterday and I seriously woke up this morning and remember why I love it. Been dieting for the past month and usually after I have a night of eating ****ty, I wake up looking bloated and ****ty the next day. Last night, I had a nice family style dinner with a few friends consisting of meatloaf, lasagna, roasted potatoes, pigs in a blanket, and brownies, and of course many bottles of wine (I know, very random mix lol). Well anyway, I devoured an ungodly amount of food but had taken 4 caps of AnaBeta yesterday with 2 being before my big cheat meal, and I woke up this morning up 3 pounds but looking very dry and lean and full. I ****ing love AnaBeta lol

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Started taking AnaBeta yesterday and I seriously woke up this morning and remember why I love it. Been dieting for the past month and usually after I have a night of eating ****ty, I wake up looking bloated and ****ty the next day. Last night, I had a nice family style dinner with a few friends consisting of meatloaf, lasagna, roasted potatoes, pigs in a blanket, and brownies, and of course many bottles of wine (I know, very random mix lol). Well anyway, I devoured an ungodly amount of food but had taken 4 caps of AnaBeta yesterday with 2 being before my big cheat meal, and I woke up this morning up 3 pounds but looking very dry and lean and full. I ****ing love AnaBeta lol

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This is one of my favorite benefits of Anabeta and AE, the nutrient partitioning effects are unbelievable.
 
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Started taking AnaBeta yesterday and I seriously woke up this morning and remember why I love it. Been dieting for the past month and usually after I have a night of eating ****ty, I wake up looking bloated and ****ty the next day. Last night, I had a nice family style dinner with a few friends consisting of meatloaf, lasagna, roasted potatoes, pigs in a blanket, and brownies, and of course many bottles of wine (I know, very random mix lol). Well anyway, I devoured an ungodly amount of food but had taken 4 caps of AnaBeta yesterday with 2 being before my big cheat meal, and I woke up this morning up 3 pounds but looking very dry and lean and full. I ****ing love AnaBeta lol

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I love how it's labeled a Muscle Transformation Agent w/o the fine print of an appetite stim. Whenever I run that stuff my boss would be puzzled (or irritated) at how many food breaks I would take during a shift at work.
 
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Started taking AnaBeta yesterday and I seriously woke up this morning and remember why I love it. Been dieting for the past month and usually after I have a night of eating ****ty, I wake up looking bloated and ****ty the next day. Last night, I had a nice family style dinner with a few friends consisting of meatloaf, lasagna, roasted potatoes, pigs in a blanket, and brownies, and of course many bottles of wine (I know, very random mix lol). Well anyway, I devoured an ungodly amount of food but had taken 4 caps of AnaBeta yesterday with 2 being before my big cheat meal, and I woke up this morning up 3 pounds but looking very dry and lean and full. I ****ing love AnaBeta lol

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Niceeee, FOOD looks delicious!
 
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Man I love me some AE and EP. You has to be crazy not to.
 
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Yea guys, excited to run Erase and AnaBeta for the next month, then a few weeks until my cycle :) Have a fun couple of months ahead of me.
 
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Glad everyone is finding out its true power. Awesome thing is, a year after we released AnaBeta the active ingrentient was shown to drastically increase testosterone levels as well...in a highly regarded journal.

It just keeps getting better!
 
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Yea, its a little shocking that there are no negative sides with this supplement. And yes, I eat ***ty and end up looking like an actual diet champ, lol.

What's not to love?
 
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Glad everyone is finding out its true power. Awesome thing is, a year after we released AnaBeta the active ingrentient was shown to drastically increase testosterone levels as well...in a highly regarded journal.

It just keeps getting better!
Hey Natty, can you link to that study? Would love to read it.

BTW, AnaBeta is the ****en ****. Felt like I had a mini-pump/fullness going on in my chest and back all day. Gotta love this ****, I forgot how great it is.
 
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Hey Natty, can you link to that study? Would love to read it.

BTW, AnaBeta is the ****en ****. Felt like I had a mini-pump/fullness going on in my chest and back all day. Gotta love this ****, I forgot how great it is.

Here you are my man

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22473789

Here is an article that talks about it: http://www.ergo-log.com/spanish-chamomile-t-booster.html

Also, you can see if you use 4 AnaBeta per day you are actually using 4x the human equivalent dose. We dont go skimpy!
 
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On day 3 of AB Elite... Call me crazy, but I already see a difference. It's slight, but it's there... Not too sure how to explain it, other than I just look fuller in the right areas.

Would ABE increase DOMs??? I'm still pretty damn sore from Saturday's workout, but I also mixed up my routine and threw some extra weight so I'm not sure what's at play. I do like the energy boost when taken with food though, I took my dose with a grilled chicken breast this morning and it woke me right up.

Also it says only take a max of 6 caps in 24 hours... under what conditions would one dose 6 caps?? Would 6 be better than 4 or would there be sides?
 
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Ahh i read that. Also the efficacy were still prolonged from 7-15 days after discontinuation IIRC. Amazing stuff natty!
 

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How long can you run Anabeta? Is there a rec'd cycle time/break before repeating?
 
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On day 3 of AB Elite... Call me crazy, but I already see a difference. It's slight, but it's there... Not too sure how to explain it, other than I just look fuller in the right areas.

Would ABE increase DOMs??? I'm still pretty damn sore from Saturday's workout, but I also mixed up my routine and threw some extra weight so I'm not sure what's at play. I do like the energy boost when taken with food though, I took my dose with a grilled chicken breast this morning and it woke me right up.

Also it says only take a max of 6 caps in 24 hours... under what conditions would one dose 6 caps?? Would 6 be better than 4 or would there be sides?
if I go ass out on food, carbs especially ....I've used 5-6 a day, esp on a workout day where you also eat a lot. usually 4 is sufficient though.
 

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It does cause me to have HBP....but I continue to use it anyways, just "stacked" with hawthorn extract :D
Hey Warbird, do take any meds for HBP or does ur BP just go up on AB ?? Once my Doc. gets my TRT where he wants it I have two bottles waiting to bo had. I am on meds for HBP, so I have to keep an eye on it....
 
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Hey Warbird, do take any meds for HBP or does ur BP just go up on AB ?? Once my Doc. gets my TRT where he wants it I have two bottles waiting to bo had. I am on meds for HBP, so I have to keep an eye on it....
I take lisinopril for HBP, but only to keep me in normal/lower normal levels....w/o the BP med and not using anything supplement/PH/DS related I am right around normal...doc just wants me BELOW normal....but some things, like some DHEA products (esp DHT related) and anabeta jack me up about 10-15 points on each side. normally, w BP med, I'm 120-130 and 70-80....with the anabeta I'd be about 140 and 90 (maybe a few ticks more).....usually high dose hawthorn will mitigate much of the increase. but I notice its very short spikes, sometimes on low carb cutters I'll take no anabeta one day...BP normal...next day I take 4 of them....BP up about 10 points....so it can go up and down depending on if you take it and how much you take. You will be fine with it, just monitor your BP and see how much BP meds/hawthorn you need to take to be at "normal"....it will be a process and take some trial and error and lots of readings...but you will figure out how much you need to use in order to control the BP while on anabeta....
 

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if I go ass out on food, carbs especially ....I've used 5-6 a day, esp on a workout day where you also eat a lot. usually 4 is sufficient though.
So how would one know when to take 6? Will I feel like crap if I over do it?
 
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So how would one know when to take 6? Will I feel like crap if I over do it?
you should know when you are eating like 4-5K cals heavy on the carbs....that would be an example of when to take max dosage. Other than a major headache from the BP spike when I take 5-6 caps, I get no sides :D (then again you may not get the BP increase at all........)
 
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So how would one know when to take 6? Will I feel like crap if I over do it?
Most should be fine with 4 caps per day. If you do go to 6 per day I wouldn't say there is a huge likelihood of negative effects, it just may not be necessary unless you are at a certain bodyweight or in certain situations.
 
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you should know when you are eating like 4-5K cals heavy on the carbs....that would be an example of when to take max dosage. Other than a major headache from the BP spike when I take 5-6 caps, I get no sides :D (then again you may not get the BP increase at all........)
So your saying going over 4 caps ED gives you HPB, correct? So if you stayed at 4 caps then you experienced no HPB?
 

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you should know when you are eating like 4-5K cals heavy on the carbs....that would be an example of when to take max dosage. Other than a major headache from the BP spike when I take 5-6 caps, I get no sides :D (then again you may not get the BP increase at all........)
I take creatine nitrate as my PWO and my BP is naturally low... You know how it goes, if 4 is great will 6 be even better? Just making sure I am not wasting my time with 4, but it sounds like everyone suggest staying at 4 for 2 weeks and then experimenting. Maybe the next time I eat a whole large pizza I'll try out an extra 2 lol.
 
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So your saying going over 4 caps ED gives you HPB, correct? So if you stayed at 4 caps then you experienced no HPB?
no unfortunately I get the HBP even at 3-4 caps....it just intensifies the more caps I take that day....but its always there. its not a HUGE increase, just bumps me to the top of normal bottom of "high" (140/90)....not terrible since its transient and does not last long....I can deal with it...if I am taking anabeta some days and not others like I am now? I don't even bother with the hawthorn....If i take 4 a day for 2 months straight ? (or more per day sometimes)....I def take the hawthorn since the BP will be chronically elevated....
 
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I take creatine nitrate as my PWO and my BP is naturally low... You know how it goes, if 4 is great will 6 be even better? Just making sure I am not wasting my time with 4, but it sounds like everyone suggest staying at 4 for 2 weeks and then experimenting. Maybe the next time I eat a whole large pizza I'll try out an extra 2 lol.
you hit the nail on the head lol.....4 is fine, but I ate a large pizza today just now....and about a dozen hersheys kisses for desert....needless to say I took 2 anabeta and 2 slin sane and 300mg of Na-Rala before eating :D....when I eat more later? 2 more anabeta and 1 slin sane....if i eat again even later? probably 1 anabeta and maybe 1 more slin sane....cheat days....they are a wonderful thing especially with the "magic" formula of anabeta/Na-Rala/slin sane (or recompadrol) ........
 
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no unfortunately I get the HBP even at 3-4 caps....it just intensifies the more caps I take that day....but its always there. its not a HUGE increase, just bumps me to the top of normal bottom of "high" (140/90)....not terrible since its transient and does not last long....I can deal with it...if I am taking anabeta some days and not others like I am now? I don't even bother with the hawthorn....If i take 4 a day for 2 months straight ? (or more per day sometimes)....I def take the hawthorn since the BP will be chronically elevated....
oh gotcha.. makes more sense now that you put in general! :p Atleast you know how to mitigate it! Thanks for the clarification.
 
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oh gotcha.. makes more sense now that you put in general! :p Atleast you know how to mitigate it! Thanks for the clarification.
yep....that hawthorn extract is like magic for your BP troubles if you ever get BP issues. just be sure to get the extract (standardized for vitexin %)....I'd venture to say its actually more effective (at high doses, 6 caps or more) than Rx BP meds!
 
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So are you recommending 6 caps?! Cuz I kinda want to try it but that means I have to pick up some more bottles for an 8 week.
 
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So are you recommending 6 caps?! Cuz I kinda want to try it but that means I have to pick up some more bottles for an 8 week.
no no.....4 is fine....just that occasionally you can bump to 5 or 6 if you eat a LOT more than normal. and personally I usually bump to 5 max. won't require any additional bottles....
 
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Hahaha I'm not saying your saying "hey do this!" but if you think there is a difference in efficacy in bumping the dosage then you'll express your experience. And it's up to us whether WE decide to do it. Lol your not forcing! Just asking if you noticed a difference.
 
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Hahaha I'm not saying your saying "hey do this!" but if you think there is a difference in efficacy in bumping the dosage then you'll express your experience. And it's up to us whether WE decide to do it. Lol your not forcing! Just asking if you noticed a difference.
no but seriously, just take 4 a day....that is the sweet spot....many of us have used 5 a day for a period of time....some even 6 on occasion...but just stick with 4 unless you eat a shyt-ton of food one day, then just take a few more that particular day....
 
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Lol I've done it twice already. Bought them when it was first introduced back in 11'. Now that there are logs and the new ABE/EP, I still have my OG anabeta and OG erase (stocked up :)) I heard and read people going above and since now I'm gunna do another run, might as well try it. Haha I'm not new to the game:p just more wise and in tuned.
 
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2 packages beef flavor ramen noodles, with a 7 oz chicken breast chopped up added in = 2 more anabeta, 1 more slin sane.....added to the 2 anabeta and 2 slin sane I took before eating the 5-6 slices of pizza and dozen hersheys kisses from earlier...total 4 anabeta 3 slin sane....I hope to eat some twinkies and milk before bed some time here soon, will mean more anabeta and slin sane....see if I can accomplish my goal :D.....
 

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I take lisinopril for HBP, but only to keep me in normal/lower normal levels....w/o the BP med and not using anything supplement/PH/DS related I am right around normal...doc just wants me BELOW normal....but some things, like some DHEA products (esp DHT related) and anabeta jack me up about 10-15 points on each side. normally, w BP med, I'm 120-130 and 70-80....with the anabeta I'd be about 140 and 90 (maybe a few ticks more).....usually high dose hawthorn will mitigate much of the increase. but I notice its very short spikes, sometimes on low carb cutters I'll take no anabeta one day...BP normal...next day I take 4 of them....BP up about 10 points....so it can go up and down depending on if you take it and how much you take. You will be fine with it, just monitor your BP and see how much BP meds/hawthorn you need to take to be at "normal"....it will be a process and take some trial and error and lots of readings...but you will figure out how much you need to use in order to control the BP while on anabeta....
I take Losartan for my BP and it stays around the same as urs, I have found celery seed extract to help with lowering BP as well. Appreciate ur thoughts...
 
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2 packages beef flavor ramen noodles, with a 7 oz chicken breast chopped up added in = 2 more anabeta, 1 more slin sane.....added to the 2 anabeta and 2 slin sane I took before eating the 5-6 slices of pizza and dozen hersheys kisses from earlier...total 4 anabeta 3 slin sane....I hope to eat some twinkies and milk before bed some time here soon, will mean more anabeta and slin sane....see if I can accomplish my goal :D.....
How are you liking slin sane (v2?)? Anabeta is a great nutrient repartitioner by itself but i was looking up the ingredients in slin sane and found a couple things that i like about it. How is the stack treating you all together?
 
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How are you liking slin sane (v2?)? Anabeta is a great nutrient repartitioner by itself but i was looking up the ingredients in slin sane and found a couple things that i like about it. How is the stack treating you all together?
I created my own slin sane V2 I suppose...."X" amount of slin sane V1 with 300-450mg of Na-Rala per day, and 0-5 anabeta per day (depends on how many carbs I eat that day). But I was doing this on vacation (w/o the anabeta) and I was able to overeat and not gain any fat whatsoever while maintaining muscle.....and once I got back and started working out normal again, and jumped on the 7/11 spray, I continued the slinsane/Na-Rala and added in the anabeta....I'm totally going above my usual dieting calories (not by much, but still over 70% of the time) and seem to be lowering BF% nicely....also have been taking intimidate, and just stopped the forma stanzol a few days ago. ran out finally, stuff lasts a while.....upshot is that I think the anabeta and something like slinsane v2 work very well together.
I have recompadrol to stack with the Na-Rala and anabeta for my upcoming lean bulk, to change it up since I've been using slin sane for a while now.....will be using ABv3 with pulsed beastdrol also....should be a killer combo with the AB/SD + natty stuff.....
 
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I created my own slin sane V2 I suppose...."X" amount of slin sane V1 with 300-450mg of Na-Rala per day, and 0-5 anabeta per day (depends on how many carbs I eat that day). But I was doing this on vacation (w/o the anabeta) and I was able to overeat and not gain any fat whatsoever while maintaining muscle.....and once I got back and started working out normal again, and jumped on the 7/11 spray, I continued the slinsane/Na-Rala and added in the anabeta....I'm totally going above my usual dieting calories (not by much, but still over 70% of the time) and seem to be lowering BF% nicely....also have been taking intimidate, and just stopped the forma stanzol a few days ago. ran out finally, stuff lasts a while.....upshot is that I think the anabeta and something like slinsane v2 work very well together.
I have recompadrol to stack with the Na-Rala and anabeta for my upcoming lean bulk, to change it up since I've been using slin sane for a while now.....will be using ABv3 with pulsed beastdrol also....should be a killer combo with the AB/SD + natty stuff.....
Ahhh, i love making personal concoctions, i was looking into a GDA, but found that Na-RALA and ceylon cinnamon or "true cinnamon" was the best for the organic GDA. Im really thinking about starting my anabeta run, but haven't really planned it out yet. I've been on a 8 month clean of anything that mimics or affects hormones directly (T-boost/erase type of stuff). Just been on pretty much staples with addition of FXT, ALCAR, and a racetam. I believe its time to give OG anabeta a try once more ;)
 
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Ahhh, i love making personal concoctions, i was looking into a GDA, but found that Na-RALA and ceylon cinnamon or "true cinnamon" was the best for the organic GDA. Im really thinking about starting my anabeta run, but haven't really planned it out yet. I've been on a 8 month clean of anything that mimics or affects hormones directly (T-boost/erase type of stuff). Just been on pretty much staples with addition of FXT, ALCAR, and a racetam. I believe its time to give OG anabeta a try once more ;)
I hear that! I usually run some "true cinnamon", Agmatine, and Anabeta during my refeeds. Keeps everything lean and mean!
 
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I hear that! I usually run some "true cinnamon", Agmatine, and Anabeta during my refeeds. Keeps everything lean and mean!
Geez... Thats going to be my next run! Have agmatine coming, already have OG anabeta. Just wondering if i need to get another bottle or not...elite or OG.
 
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Geez... Thats going to be my next run! Have agmatine coming, already have OG anabeta. Just wondering if i need to get another bottle or not...elite or OG.
Love both....still have a few bottles of og anabeta Im using, 4 caps of ABE and 2 OG anabeta per day.
 
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Love both....still have a few bottles of og anabeta Im using, 4 caps of ABE and 2 OG anabeta per day.
Yea, i ended up giving my friend the 2 bottles of OG anabeta when that sale was going on.. So far he's in love! But i might have to muster up the courage and hit that checkout button :D. As for ABE, the A pyrethrum is dosed lower because of the SERM-like blend, correct? So how would that equivilate to having OG anabeta?
 
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Yea, its a little shocking that there are no negative sides with this supplement. And yes, I eat ***ty and end up looking like an actual diet champ, lol.

What's not to love?
Do you get appetite increases from it? I remember the first time I ran it. I believe I was the only beta tester who talked about having to decrease the dosage to three capsules per day. I have never experienced hunger like it.
 
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My first time last year when it was first released, gave it a go, and basically could eat anything and everything. It was unbearable just like your log bdcc, even woke up and had to eat something! I'm about to give it another go, third times the charm hopefully!
 
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My first time last year when it was first released, gave it a go, and basically could eat anything and everything. It was unbearable just like your log bdcc, even woke up and had to eat something! I'm about to give it another go, third times the charm hopefully!
My first 2 times on anabeta I couldnt stop eating. I don't find I have that issue with ABE
 

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