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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    Anadraulic State GT... one scoop, offered to anyone will have them online ordering their tub.
    Just look at the profile, more than just a stim:



    SERM - Blocks estrogen at the estrogen receptor, which stops its negative side effects and has the positive of boosting LH and testosterone
    ANTI-AROMATASE – Stops the converstion of testosterone into estrogen, thus boosting testosterone in another way and increasing the androgenic ratio
    pSARM – SARMs act like testosterone in the body without effecting testosterone, so its like having a "prescription" testosterone boost without the negatives
    RECEPTOR – Increased receptor quality and quantity means that the SERM, AI and pSARM testosterone effect will be doubled, giving your muscle cells the most active receptors, which build a more anabolic environment to take advantage of the increased androgenic ratio

    In A Base Of:

    CREATINE PEPTIDES - Advanced delivery creatine builds muscle and increases satellite cells. This new type of creatine is more biologically active than other types, giving even better results
    ESSENTIAL AMINO ACIDS – If you are not using these prior to your workout, you are robbing your muscles of the proper repair nutrients to push past your plateaus and get the most out of each workout. EAA's are best taken prior to working out, to prevent tear down
    INSULIN MIMETIC - Forced growth means pushing more of the nutrients required to build into each muscle cell. The secret to this growth is increasing the activity of the bodies natural insulin response. This is a BIG key to Anadraulic State's immediate effect
    CORTISOL BLOCK - Reduced tear down happens at the end of the workout when cortisol levels usually shoot through the roof. Anadraulic State blocks this cortisol release with key nutrients that have been proven to blunt the cortisol response, finishing off the perfect Anadraulic State
    PERFECT CARBS - Precise blend of Waxy Maize Starch and Pharmaceutical Grade Dextrose for perfect nutrient delivery

    Stimulant Complex:
    Caffeine Anhydrous
    Bitter Orange (20% Synephrine)

    Adaptogenic Complex:
    Quercetin
    Schizandra Berry Extact
    Cinnamon 10:1
    Mulberry Extract

    Amino Acid Complex:
    Whey Protein Hydrolysate
    Partially Hydrolyzed Pea Protein
    Aspartic Acid
    L-Leucine
    Fee Form Amino Acid

    Estrogen Control Complex:
    Ellagic Acid 40%
    Trans-Resveratrol 50%
    3beta-hydroxyurs-12-en-28-oic-acid 25%

    Creatine Complex:
    Creatine Monohydrate
    Beta Alanine
    Creatine Citrate / Malate
    Creatine Ethyl Ester

    pSarm Complex:
    Hibiscus Rosa Sinensis
    Osthole 80%

    Carbohydrate Complex:
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    Lots of good stuff in there, the only problem is I wouldn't like the hormonal/cortisol stuff in there. I'm very picky when it comes how I affect my hormones. Could you post the amount of everything?

    That's part of the reason I started using CL products way back in the day. We seperate the creatines from the preworkout, etc. This is good when you want to fine-tune a stack, or don't want a particular compound (some people want creatine but no stims, some people want stims but no creatine.) Obviously, if you want everything all in one, a product like A-State would be awesome. Seems like it covers a wide range of bases.
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    I personally like black powder/no2black by MRI all complaint with WADA which I like. Also I like the preworkout patche and creatine patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    Lots of good stuff in there, the only problem is I wouldn't like the hormonal/cortisol stuff in there. I'm very picky when it comes how I affect my hormones. Could you post the amount of everything?

    That's part of the reason I started using CL products way back in the day. We seperate the creatines from the preworkout, etc. This is good when you want to fine-tune a stack, or don't want a particular compound (some people want creatine but no stims, some people want stims but no creatine.) Obviously, if you want everything all in one, a product like A-State would be awesome. Seems like it covers a wide range of bases.
    its a blend.....i could track down the exact amounts but may take some time
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    its a blend.....i could track down the exact amounts but may take some time
    No worries I will check it on NP
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    No worries I will check it on NP
    nutra doesnt even list the total mg blend let alone a generic breakdown
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    nutra doesnt even list the total mg blend let alone a generic breakdown
    hmph! i just noticed that, strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows

    Lots of good stuff in there, the only problem is I wouldn't like the hormonal/cortisol stuff in there. I'm very picky when it comes how I affect my hormones. Could you post the amount of everything?

    That's part of the reason I started using CL products way back in the day. We seperate the creatines from the preworkout, etc. This is good when you want to fine-tune a stack, or don't want a particular compound (some people want creatine but no stims, some people want stims but no creatine.) Obviously, if you want everything all in one, a product like A-State would be awesome. Seems like it covers a wide range of bases.
    This was the reason I picked up WF way back: I wanted my creatine separate from pre workout. Good stuff, never tried the new formula.
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    Yeah i tried WF a couple years back and it was defiantly some good stuff. Almost thru my tub of C4 now and like it when i need a little jolt
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    I usually like non stim preworkouts the best anymore. Hate taking stim ones and feeling dependent on them.
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    CRAZE all day I used to use NO, tried assault for a week and thought it was garbage. But Craze I have and will stick with for a while. It just works plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awild1797 View Post
    CRAZE all day I used to use NO, tried assault for a week and thought it was garbage. But Craze I have and will stick with for a while. It just works plain and simple.
    Only problem with this its not good value in the UK. Craze is £35, 'AS GT' (above) is £17 and even jack3d you can pick up for £18, so its half the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post
    I usually like non stim preworkouts the best anymore. Hate taking stim ones and feeling dependent on them.
    I agree. Lately I've been going non stim pre workout and a cup a coffee or a caffeine pill. I keep the heavy stim pre workouts for leg day and when I just ain't feeling it.

    I can't go completely stim free... Need my caffeine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    Lots of good stuff in there, the only problem is I wouldn't like the hormonal/cortisol stuff in there. I'm very picky when it comes how I affect my hormones. Could you post the amount of everything?

    That's part of the reason I started using CL products way back in the day. We seperate the creatines from the preworkout, etc. This is good when you want to fine-tune a stack, or don't want a particular compound (some people want creatine but no stims, some people want stims but no creatine.) Obviously, if you want everything all in one, a product like A-State would be awesome. Seems like it covers a wide range of bases.
    Don't worry. Those compounds at those doses won't affect hormone levels. It's essentially creatine, carbs, and stims.
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    Have you tried a pre work out called rampage by physical edge. Stronger than jack3d but only bad thing is you have come downs and there pretty bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbigdavjb
    Have you tried a pre work out called rampage by physical edge. Stronger than jack3d but only bad thing is you have come downs and there pretty bad.
    Not worth taking a preworkout that makes you crash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza
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    Sex before working out, studies show it boost your test levels....

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