- 07-08-2012, 03:07 PM
I've been looking around at PhD seince I was 16 and now tthat I'm 18 I can actually purchase them but it would obviously be my first time useing them what is a good mild Ph I'm looking to make some good gains low sides I've done research and I know pct is needed along with most phs a anti estrogen and a liver gaurd and test booster during pct but just don't know what's the mild starters any input is gladly taken thanks
- 07-08-2012, 03:16 PM
07-08-2012, 03:19 PM
At 18 you don't need a PH or anything of that nature.Originally Posted by BIGpapasKITCH
You hormones are superb as they are now, I promise you that you won't get any information here except negative comments.
You need proper diet, training, and sleep to reach your goals.
Hold off until you are 21+
07-08-2012, 03:21 PM
Don't touch ANY ph, steroid, or designer steroid until you're AT LEAST 21; I'm almost 28 and have never touched it. The damage you'd do at your young age could be horrendous compared to any slight benefit you'd see.Originally Posted by BIGpapasKITCH
I know it's tough. I remember being a young lifter wanting to get big quick, but you have to logically reason the pros versus the cons. A few inches on the arms, and a better look in the mirror are not worth years of damage to your endocrine system.
Not trying to tell you what to do--no one likes that. I'm giving you the same advice I'd give my little brother.
07-08-2012, 03:36 PM
Thank you all for the none harsh inputs hah like I've been given before on here well thank you all even the milder Phs Arnt anything for me ? Understandable I've just hit my.plateau after years of lifting I've been lifting for probly 3 years steadily getting stronger (til now) any input for a 18 year old to get past it?
07-08-2012, 03:38 PM
I have the protein I have the multi I can't stand creatine it's only water weight with me never taken a pre workout
07-08-2012, 03:42 PM
07-08-2012, 03:44 PM
07-08-2012, 03:54 PM
Thank you that is a good idea any help with that reason I ask is my moms a vegetarian so protein intake is slightly differnt but I take a multi and true mass came highly recommended from my good friends older brother who's only 3 years older in the marines ha any other things other than protein or creatine or multi hah
07-08-2012, 04:11 PM
18 years old...5'8...150lbs.
Eat lots of burgers and drink a gallon of milk a day. Focus on compound lifts almost exclusively. Keep adding weight to the bar.
07-08-2012, 07:46 PM
Start putting two spoonfuls of peanut butter in all your whey shakes. That'll add some calories.
If your mom is a vegetarian then start buying your own food and cooking it yourself.
Steak, chicken, rice, oats, and continue vegetables and fruits as normal. Cut down in soy, if taking.
07-08-2012, 09:35 PM
That's sound advice right here. Do a gallon of whole milk daily and do something like the stronglifts 5x5 program and I guarantee you're strength and size will increase. A gallo of milk has over 100 grams of protein in itself.Originally Posted by boogyman
I was in the same boat at your age. Only I'm 5'7. Now I'm 192. Adding about 50 pounds in 9 years through eating right and a proper training routine.
07-08-2012, 09:36 PM
07-08-2012, 10:20 PM
Steakadrol and Tunavar stacked . You can also add Carbohydradol . Works every time.
"Strive to seize the initiative in all things"
07-08-2012, 10:23 PM
07-08-2012, 11:01 PM
It is the nature of the beast to an extent, but it's where you're holding the water that makes the difference. For me, creatine mono makes me hold a great deal of water in the gut as evidenced by bloating. Creatine hydrochloride, con-cret, gives my muscles a much fuller and denser feel.Originally Posted by Killerkanadia
It seems to help with strength increases as well. I Always make strength increases if my training is right, but I can notice a difference in regards to how quickly the weight adds up when using creatine hcl. I'm no rep or anything and I don't use many supplements, but this is one that is worth the 25 bucks every month or two to me.
07-09-2012, 12:48 AM
07-09-2012, 02:25 AM
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07-09-2012, 09:25 AM
No I don't have to buy but ill look into the concret after work and probly start a meal plan the scoops of peanut butter great idea!
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