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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You should be cycling off L-dopa. Time on < time off, really. Also, you should consider using 5htp and egcg while using l-dopa. lastly, mucuna pruriens, not l-dopa (yes, there is an important distinction), has evidence that it increases T levels in healthy humans. I have seen zero evidence that it raises estrogen
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Glycyrrhetinic acid

    EDIT: Not the best, but hasn't been mentioned before.

    hmm.. interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    7-keto (Reduce XT), 5-AT, ashwaghanda, and sutherlandia fructescens are all good options
    So if I used 7 keto for short term cortisol control, I would dose something like 500mg AM upon waking and another 500mg pre bed? Would this have any effect on strength workouts mid day? My bench and a few other compound lifts have gone down and I think it may be related to cortisol creating a catabolic environment
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    Anyone still use Vitamin C?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wastedwhiteboy2
    Anyone still use Vitamin C?
    Does that actually work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa

    Does that actually work?
    I wouldn't waist my time or money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wastedwhiteboy2 View Post
    Anyone still use Vitamin C?
    It really doesn't work in weight training populations unless you're overtraining
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    It really doesn't work in weight training populations unless you're overtraining
    Is there evidence that vitamin c and patethine help reduce the conversion of dhea to cortisol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    It really doesn't work in weight training populations unless you're overtraining
    Has it been tested for cortisol modulation in weight training populations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    Has it been tested for cortisol modulation in weight training populations?
    Yes. And found to hinder recovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Yes. And found to hinder recovery.
    Was that because of effects on cortisol or more related to its antioxidant capability? I ask because I will resuming weight training in a month or so and need to manage cortisol during and post training. If vitamin C is likely to increase cortisol in weight training populations then I won't take it before and post workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa

    So if I used 7 keto for short term cortisol control, I would dose something like 500mg AM upon waking and another 500mg pre bed? Would this have any effect on strength workouts mid day? My bench and a few other compound lifts have gone down and I think it may be related to cortisol creating a catabolic environment
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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    Was that because of effects on cortisol or more related to its antioxidant capability? I ask because I will resuming weight training in a month or so and need to manage cortisol during and post training. If vitamin C is likely to increase cortisol in weight training populations then I won't take it before and post workout.
    It favors a pro-oxidative environment and disrupts the hormetic response to resistance training, dose-dependently of course.

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    Bump on this?
    You sure you mean that much 7-keto? It wouldn't affect strength and it's probably due to diet and not cortisol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pressureSpike View Post
    Can I take endoamp max with reduce xt?
    You can try it but proceed with caution. If you're not on some joint support + fish oil, I'd probably use the two separately.
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    I'd never heard anyone say anything bad about vitamin C. Google vitamin C cortisol and it's all positive about reducing cortisol.
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    hey mr cooper thanks for your reply. Maybe i was unclear when i wrote earlier. i was asking if DAA increases estrogen to a lvl where the balance of that estrogen increase is higher than the test increase making it not worth it, not l dopa supplements. For l dopa supps i was asking if people were scared of them.

    I mean increasing l dopa is kinda manipulating brain chemistry in way. But yes i love l dopa supps and def cycle of them after a bottle or two. again thanks for your reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irocadiext View Post
    hey mr cooper thanks for your reply. Maybe i was unclear when i wrote earlier. i was asking if DAA increases estrogen to a lvl where the balance of that estrogen increase is higher than the test increase making it not worth it, not l dopa supplements. For l dopa supps i was asking if people were scared of them.

    I mean increasing l dopa is kinda manipulating brain chemistry in way. But yes i love l dopa supps and def cycle of them after a bottle or two. again thanks for your reply.
    It's tough to tell since the study did not examine this aspect. Of the bloodwork I've seen, the T:E either generally improves or stays the same. Thus, taking an AI with DAA can make DAA work that much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wastedwhiteboy2 View Post
    I'd never heard anyone say anything bad about vitamin C. Google vitamin C cortisol and it's all positive about reducing cortisol.
    regardless of cortisol control, I take 1,000mg C morning and night for its many benefits (esp keeping you from "getting sick"). and I use a vitamin C (and an aloe) cream for the face. C is good shyt.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    regardless of cortisol control, I take 1,000mg C morning and night for its many benefits (esp keeping you from "getting sick"). and I use a vitamin C (and an aloe) cream for the face. C is good shyt.....
    You are wasting vitamin C in this regard. Use no more than 500mg in one sitting
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    You are wasting vitamin C in this regard. Use no more than 500mg in one sitting
    Does the above 500mg induce pro oxidant effects or does the stomach not Aniston that much at once?
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Does the above 500mg induce pro oxidant effects or does the stomach not Aniston that much at once?
    You will excrete anything extra
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You are wasting vitamin C in this regard. Use no more than 500mg in one sitting
    I want to make sure I get enough, I'll just piss out the rest and make my urine (expensive) yellow ....you'll be displeased to know I used to take 2,000mg twice per day in the distant past....I also used to chew the flavored 100mg chewables like gummy bears when I worked at *** when I was younger....they tasted so good it was crazy....I probably almost OD'd on C during a shift, even though that is probably not possible....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    I want to make sure I get enough, I'll just piss out the rest and make my urine (expensive) yellow ....you'll be displeased to know I used to take 2,000mg twice per day in the distant past....I also used to chew the flavored 100mg chewables like gummy bears when I worked at *** when I was younger....they tasted so good it was crazy....I probably almost OD'd on C during a shift, even though that is probably not possible....
    I understand what you're saying is but 500mg is enough. Why waste anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Does the above 500mg induce pro oxidant effects or does the stomach not Aniston that much at once?
    not Aniston


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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    I want to make sure I get enough, I'll just piss out the rest and make my urine (expensive) yellow ....you'll be displeased to know I used to take 2,000mg twice per day in the distant past....I also used to chew the flavored 100mg chewables like gummy bears when I worked at *** when I was younger....they tasted so good it was crazy....I probably almost OD'd on C during a shift, even though that is probably not possible....
    Just recycle it hahah jks
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    Quote Originally Posted by D3Baseball

    not Aniston

    not Aniston

    not Aniston

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I understand what you're saying is but 500mg is enough. Why waste anything?
    I'm just an ahole like that.....I don't care if a study says 500mg is enough, I'd just as soon take extra to be sure. C is harmless and you piss it out anyways....if it were a fat soluble vitamin then OK, take the recommended dosage. C is cheap at 500mg or 1000mg anyways...although I get caps which are more pricey usually...
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Just recycle it hahah jks
    man they had a lady on TLC or whatever channel, on "my strange addiction" who drank like a gallon of her piss a day....man that was disgusting to watch
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