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    Thumbs down muscle marinade= very dissapointed


    got a couple sample packs of this stuff made by purus labs, my usual preworkouts are Assault and Monsterpump, tried this stuff today, disappointed to say the least, it wasnt a good focused energy, more of a jittery type that i dont like, also got gut rot from this **** and the taste was very unimpressive. assault and pump have better ingredient profiles and are better prtoducts in my opinion, by far.
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    Dude you ever tried 400-600mg caffine straight as a comparison? The only major difference is the price
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captn_the View Post
    Dude you ever tried 400-600mg caffine straight as a comparison? The only major difference is the price
    this doesnt make any sense.....MM has a combined 380mg of 1.3.7-trimethylxanthine; 2-amino-4-methythexane in 1 scoop and assault being a complete blend, not knowing for sure how much caffeine is in it, doesnt come close to 400-600mg's........also the "major differences" would be everything else offered in the products, i for one really enjoy muscle marinade and dont care for assault at all......
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    ya assault is crap if you ask me too!!! whats it have 20000mg prop blend. im also a big fan of the marinade
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4 View Post
    ya assault is crap if you ask me too!!! whats it have 20000mg prop blend. im also a big fan of the marinade
    yeah its a complete prop blend so the ingredient profile is useless as far as im concerned, but to each is there own
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    was this the new formula?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4 View Post
    was this the new formula?
    of mm or assault?
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    i like assault but the '' proprietary'' blend thing is what made me recently change monster pump
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    Quote Originally Posted by schroedes View Post
    i like assault but the '' proprietary'' blend thing is what made me recently change monster pump
    have yet to try monster pump, but i have a few samples laying around
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    OP, what are you looking for in a pre work out?

    What flavor did you try?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captn_the
    Dude you ever tried 400-600mg caffine straight as a comparison? The only major difference is the price
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech

    this doesnt make any sense.....MM has a combined 380mg of 1.3.7-trimethylxanthine; 2-amino-4-methythexane in 1 scoop and assault being a complete blend, not knowing for sure how much caffeine is in it, doesnt come close to 400-600mg's........also the "major differences" would be everything else offered in the products, i for one really enjoy muscle marinade and dont care for assault at all......
    300mg of caffiene and 80mg of 1,3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    of mm or assault?
    marinade
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4

    marinade
    Marinade isn't for every1
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Marinade isn't for every1
    just the best......
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Marinade isn't for every1
    i love the old version cant wait to try the new one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4

    i love the old version cant wait to try the new one!
    The new version is A brother to MM.

    Condense is the name and no creatine or 1,3 is the game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    The new version is A brother to MM.

    Condense is the name and no creatine or 1,3 is the game!
    That was my beef with MM and most pre workouts I don't like creatine added. Still though the original MM is some strong stuff. Assault is not in the same league.
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    I loved MM, I couldn't take it several days in the row or I'd never sleep and I'd crash hard but if I had a day where I really had no energy or didn't want to go to the gym a scoop of MM and I was ready to tear doors off the wall!
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    The marinade is awesome...and anyone here trying to discuss ingredient profile of MM paired to MP Assault with me...feel free, I'll come down with facts, science and a big f*gging neg hammer if I see bad arguments and just stupid comments like "assaults tastes better! it has creatine!!" god...I'm feeling mean tonight...
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    Quote Originally Posted by roblasane View Post
    That was my beef with MM and most pre workouts I don't like creatine added. Still though the original MM is some strong stuff. Assault is not in the same league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    this doesnt make any sense.....MM has a combined 380mg of 1.3.7-trimethylxanthine; 2-amino-4-methythexane in 1 scoop and assault being a complete blend, not knowing for sure how much caffeine is in it, doesnt come close to 400-600mg's........also the "major differences" would be everything else offered in the products, i for one really enjoy muscle marinade and dont care for assault at all......
    My point is caffine alone is effective and cheap... But hey, each to there own.

    Feel free to waste your money on worthless preWO products bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captn_the View Post
    My point is caffine alone is effective and cheap... But hey, each to there own.

    Feel free to waste your money on worthless preWO products bro
    Why can't I just neg you until you are red? Oh wait you still are kiddo...go back to the rock you crawled out of...and pick up a book while at it, knowledge is something you clearly lack...Don't mess with the Marinade >:3!!
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    Pre-workouts have a very different effect on people. Some people bash the pre-workouts I have had the best results with while praising the ones that treated me like pure garbage. I really think it's something people should experiment with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roblasane

    That was my beef with MM and most pre workouts I don't like creatine added. Still though the original MM is some strong stuff. Assault is not in the same league.
    Repped.

    Quote Originally Posted by D2footballjrc
    I loved MM, I couldn't take it several days in the row or I'd never sleep and I'd crash hard but if I had a day where I really had no energy or didn't want to go to the gym a scoop of MM and I was ready to tear doors off the wall!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech

    best 20 bucks i ever spent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Why can't I just neg you until you are red? Oh wait you still are kiddo...go back to the rock you crawled out of...and pick up a book while at it, knowledge is something you clearly lack...Don't mess with the Marinade >:3!!
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    Assault is crap. Monster pump is great. Muscle marinade doesn't really have any preworkout-specific performance enhancing ingredients besides stimulants, but it's a good supplement if you don't have basics like creatine, TMG, and beta-alanine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captn_the

    My point is caffine alone is effective and cheap... But hey, each to there own.

    Feel free to waste your money on worthless preWO products bro
    If that's the case he can drink a cup of coffee or two.
    He brought the MM for a reason; It could be the full dose of creatine mixed with the BCAAs or the heavily dosed set of stims, maybe he didn't want a prop blend pre w.o., maybe he wanted beta-alanine included. What ever the reason was or is he purchased it and did not like & we know that will happen from time to time. Not everyone is going to like Purus products and I'm ok with that, but making a statement about taking caffiene pills, fine that's your own opinion, but if thats the case he can do just as well drinking a cup of coffee. To buy creatine, BCAAs.... All the other little goodies that goes into MM will cost you more than $30 a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    Assault is crap. Monster pump is great. Muscle marinade doesn't really have any preworkout-specific performance enhancing ingredients besides stimulants, but it's a good supplement if you don't have basics like creatine, TMG, and beta-alanine.
    Beta-Alanine? Creatine Monohydrate? Those enhance performance....
    Is it elaborate not, basic staples yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Beta-Alanine? Creatine Monohydrate? Those enhance performance....
    Is it elaborate not, basic staples yes.
    They do not enhance performance in a preworkout setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    They do not enhance performance in a preworkout setting.
    So when would they? Anytime they would; when you 1st wake up, before lifting, after lifting, at night time.
    Endurance and strength, fatigue reduced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Assault is crap. Monster pump is great. Muscle marinade doesn't really have any preworkout-specific performance enhancing ingredients besides stimulants, but it's a good supplement if you don't have basics like creatine, TMG, and beta-alanine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    So when would they? Anytime they would; when you 1st wake up, before lifting, after lifting, at night time.
    Endurance and strength, fatigue reduced.
    My point is that they are not ingredients that belong in a preworkout. They are great, just not preworkout-specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    My point is that they are not ingredients that belong in a preworkout. They are great, just not preworkout-specific.
    True.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schroedes
    got a couple sample packs of this stuff made by purus labs, my usual preworkouts are Assault and Monsterpump, tried this stuff today, disappointed to say the least, it wasnt a good focused energy, more of a jittery type that i dont like, also got gut rot from this **** and the taste was very unimpressive. assault and pump have better ingredient profiles and are better prtoducts in my opinion, by far.
    It's cuz your a stim noob dude. Muscle marinade is a great preworkout with effective doses of a lot of ingredients. I would only recommend it tho to people who r stim tolerant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonRubio View Post
    It's cuz your a stim noob dude. Muscle marinade is a great preworkout with effective doses of a lot of ingredients. I would only recommend it tho to people who r stim tolerant.
    lol I can do ECY stack at the 3x a day max dosages for my weight (referring to the Yohimbe dose haha) and feel perfectly fine, and even I was perfectly ok with just 1 scoop of the Marinade !
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonRubio

    It's cuz your a stim noob dude. Muscle marinade is a great preworkout with effective doses of a lot of ingredients. I would only recommend it tho to people who r stim tolerant.
    A stim noob? Been lifting for years and tried them all. Fool. Anyways products work different for everyone, this one didn't do nothing for me, I don't wanna feel cracked out,I want good clean energy with some bcaas etc thrown in. guys i'm in the minority as far as the marinade though guys! Lol
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    Try some of the 1,3 free Max Intense... whole other ball game
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Try some of the 1,3 free Max Intense... whole other ball game
    Its out already? I gotta admit I did like my old Maximize Intense haha I can just expect the new one to be better to avoid the horrible 1,3 crash I would get sometimes haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by schroedes

    A stim noob? Been lifting for years and tried them all. Fool. Anyways products work different for everyone, this one didn't do nothing for me, I don't wanna feel cracked out,I want good clean energy with some bcaas etc thrown in. guys i'm in the minority as far as the marinade though guys! Lol
    That's understandable. We are coming out with a new product called ConDense, no 1,3 you may like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by JonRubio

    It's cuz your a stim noob dude. Muscle marinade is a great preworkout with effective doses of a lot of ingredients. I would only recommend it tho to people who r stim tolerant.
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