muscle marinade= very dissapointed

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Honest to god Y3D is such a hit and miss for me! I had 5 bottles as a gift from my cousin (he is the one who first taught me some lifts) and I had such a hard time getting the pumps...but when I timed it right , Y3D+J3D loads of water and carbs DAMN...then again I get sicker pumps atm with SNS Citrulline Malate+ SS Agmatine + Carbs/water !

    I gotta say the MV2 does get me going and I like it a lot...as for assault meh...no comment there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc
    Nitrates are my favourite pump ingredients. Not sure on creatine vs arginine yet or if it has made any difference.

    I am waiting for mine to arrive in the post so tried a double dose of DPol earlier- the dosage still didn't work out to be enough to use it pre workout lol.
    Yeah, d-pol builds pumps over time....
    You ever tried Animal Pump?
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  2. Never tried Animal Pump, no.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Sent you a pm.

    Didn't get it hot stuff
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc
    Never tried Animal Pump, no.
    Seems under-dosed, I like to stack it though... Seems to come trough for me. I was so excited for shock therapy and it sucked
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by schroedes View Post
    Not trying to turn anyone away from it. Just giving my experience with it. Maybe orange wasn't the best flavor either. Anyways ,nice discussion fellas
    schroedes I agree, orange tasted horrible. not as bad as some other orange pwos, but pretty damn bad.
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  6. This thread TL;DR

    But seriously MM>Monster Pump > Assault.

    OP's reaction to MM could be taking in too much stims at once. If you still have more samples, try taking 1/2 or 3/4 of the packet and see how you react...

  7. What is that geranium oil anyways? Just a natural stimulant?
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  8. Does it have any other benefits?
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by schroedes
    What is that geranium oil anyways? Just a natural stimulant?
    It's not natural. It's 1,3. Just a different name. There's an article on it in the article section.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by schroedes View Post
    Not trying to turn anyone away from it. Just giving my experience with it. Maybe orange wasn't the best flavor either. Anyways ,nice discussion fellas
    I've considered MM the best preWO bar none for years now*, and I've tried almost all the garbage pushed on the internet (seriously, the only one I haven't yet is Craze). With that said, I will say that the orange flavored MM, quite frankly, tastes like hot birdshìt on cement. Try the Mixed fruit or whatever it's called, it's amazing. Cherry Limeade was pretty good when it came out, too, but the mixed fruit truly masks the EAAs.

    *in terms of dollar per serving.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Torobestia
    I've considered MM the best preWO bar none for years now, and I've tried almost all the garbage pushed on the internet (seriously, the only one I haven't yet is Craze). With that said, I will say that the orange flavored MM, quite frankly, tastes like hot birdshìt on cement. Try the Mixed fruit or whatever it's called, it's amazing. Cherry Limeade was pretty good when it came out, too, but the mixed fruit truly masks the EAAs.
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  12. I just got a hold of some MM. As for taste, not so great, but I am not sippin on supps like I would for a nice brew. Down them and get to the f**king gym. As for jitters and energy, well unfortunately after years of adderall for studying in college I have a rather high tolerance to stims so my purpose for prewo supps is the formual to help build muscle. So far I enjoy MM. The formula is amazing, lots a creatine, electrolytes, bcaa..etc...I would say basically everything you'd want to have circulating in your system during a work out. I am going to have to give it a thumbs up.
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by technique88
    I just got a hold of some MM. As for taste, not so great, but I am not sippin on supps like I would for a nice brew. Down them and get to the f**king gym. As for jitters and energy, well unfortunately after years of adderall for studying in college I have a rather high tolerance to stims so my purpose for prewo supps is the formual to help build muscle. So far I enjoy MM. The formula is amazing, lots a creatine, electrolytes, bcaa..etc...I would say basically everything you'd want to have circulating in your system during a work out. I am going to have to give it a thumbs up.
    Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Torobestia
    I've considered MM the best preWO bar none for years now*, and I've tried almost all the garbage pushed on the internet (seriously, the only one I haven't yet is Craze). With that said, I will say that the orange flavored MM, quite frankly, tastes like hot birdshìt on cement. Try the Mixed fruit or whatever it's called, it's amazing. Cherry Limeade was pretty good when it came out, too, but the mixed fruit truly masks the EAAs.

    *in terms of dollar per serving.
    Lol, that's about right
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Nitrates are my favourite pump ingredients. Not sure on creatine vs arginine yet or if it has made any difference.

    I am waiting for mine to arrive in the post so tried a double dose of DPol earlier- the dosage still didn't work out to be enough to use it pre workout lol.
    I would be curious how GlycoMyx treats you in the pump department. I haven't torn into my tub yet (so much other stuff to get through first), but feedback is pretty promising in regards to the pump.
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  16. How come no1 is feeling assault? The v1 was legit, heard 2 sucked, not sure on v3....
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1
    How come no1 is feeling assault? The v1 was legit, heard 2 sucked, not sure on v3....
    I'd always heard good things about assault before I got on here.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542

    I'd always heard good things about assault before I got on here.
    IMO its to mild
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  19. Assault is not a good product and is one of the worst values available. Shows you the power of marketing.

  20. Didn't the old Assault have Suma Root? They changed it out in the new formulation, and I seem to remember Rosie saying that was the part of their formulation she liked the most.

    I guess for PWOs people are either looking for a physique-enhancing blend (pump), motivation/focus (stims), or a middle ground of the two.

    MM has been on my radar but I've never pulled the trigger because of a high creatine content (I bloat easy) and high stim level. Maybe if I did a half scoop it would work, but I have a couple PWOs in my arsenal that I enjoy, and failing them, enough bulk powders of the PWO ingredients to get me through.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1
    How come no1 is feeling assault? The v1 was legit, heard 2 sucked, not sure on v3....
    There are actually quite a few people on here that enjoy assault. I for one like it. Its just like anything else - one person didn't like it and their following says the same : )

    Still gotta try that marinade. I think I have a few samples.: )

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542

    I'd always heard good things about assault before I got on here.
    Its decent if you can pick it up at a good price.

    Quote Originally Posted by D3Baseball
    Assault is not a good product and is one of the worst values available. Shows you the power of marketing.
    That's ridiculous! Power of marketing has nothing to do with the pumps it gave me or the effects I had during workout. Different things work for different people plain and simple.
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  22. Only knock on muscle marinade's ingredient profile is the 1g of Vitamin C! 500mg is the average saturation level, and Dr. Dana Houser pleads that people discontinue supps with greater than 500mg doses per serving.

    The vaunted Mr. Cooper is always busting people for using Vitamin C too close to training!

    Also, what's up with the Cyanocobalamin B12.....

    Otherwise I love the profile and its just that vitamin C that has kept me from pulling the trigger.

    Edit: If you like Muscle Marinade that's fine, but I don't get the Assault hate bandwagon up in here.

    If you have problems with Creapure, CitMal, Carnosyn Beta Alanine, Methylcobalamin in fully disclosed amounts then I don't know what to tell you. Taurine, Dimethylglycine (like the TMG you find in MM with one less methyl group to donate), Rhodiola, Tyrosine and MCTs are ingredients that a lot of people seem to like. Maybe Astragin and Cinnulin are on par with Bioperine for the intended ingredients here, I dunno I haven't read studies. They could add more clinically backed ingredients, but it doesn't include anything that i know of like Vit C which you should apparently avoid periworkout.

    FYI, I wish prop blends went the way of the dinosaur too, but Assault is a big scoop of mostly studied ingredients just like MM. IMO that is almost always better than a concentrated formula of DMAA or other stims.

  23. I have to be the dark horse here and say Assault is good stuff. I cant handle MM or other super stims... Assault has a good igredient profile and the right amount of stims for ME... and for some others who dont want to feel overstimmed. It's also very inexpensive so whomever said it was costly doesnt know where to shop.

    As for the proprietary, yes, that's a bummer but speak to the right rep and they can give you the breakdown - which is actually a good ratio (effective )of each ingredient.

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  24. Quote Originally Posted by StangBanger
    I have to be the dark horse here and say Assault is good stuff. I cant handle MM or other super stims... Assault has a good igredient profile and the right amount of stims for ME... and for some others who dont want to feel overstimmed. It's also very inexpensive so whomever said it was costly doesnt know where to shop.

    As for the proprietary, yes, that's a bummer but speak to the right rep and they can give you the breakdown - which is actually a good ratio (effective )of each ingredient.

    flame suit on.
    You're not the dark horse others are out there. They're just afraid of saying something that isn't a popular belief on AM. Its easier to agree with everyone than to have your own opinion and have internet buds dislike you for it lol.

    However, THIS is a MM thread and I haven't really seen much negative on it, so I'll have to try it! That's the only way to know if something works or doesn't after all : )
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  25. I did enjoy Assault. Profile was pretty decent. I did have a small dip in performance which at the time might as well been partially attributed to not having the level of stims MM did. This is the Suma Root version. I tried the new version, and it was just like drinking dust. MM has betaine, while any version of Assault does not, which I assume is another big contributor, and citrulline malate doesnt do anything for me.

  26. Have you ever tried Alpha Rage by Muscle Gauge Nutrition? It's an advanced formula pre-workout that I've had great results with it.

  27. 1 sample is not a accurate way of determining a product , maybe taste wise but effectiveness not so sure. Ingredients in MM help in different areas it's not really just a straight stim product.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by roblasane
    1 sample is not a accurate way of determining a product , maybe taste wise but effectiveness not so sure. Ingredients in MM help in different areas it's not really just a straight stim product.
    Very true.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    I would be curious how GlycoMyx treats you in the pump department. I haven't torn into my tub yet (so much other stuff to get through first), but feedback is pretty promising in regards to the pump.
    I was one of the people asking about it's gluten free status upon release. It is not available in the UK yet.

    I will see if Blake can send me one with his next love letter.
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Why can't I just neg you until you are red? Oh wait you still are kiddo...go back to the rock you crawled out of...and pick up a book while at it, knowledge is something you clearly lack...Don't mess with the Marinade &gt;:3!!
    Yes my ignorance is blinding. It appears your knowledge of placebos clearly gives your advantage in the jacked and desirable stakes
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