Combing 2 OTC's for pct?

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    Combing 2 OTC's for pct?


    alright, first of all, lay off all the "get a SERM dude!", cause i have run many cycles without them and retained 70-90% of my gains, and fully recovered.

    alright so i was thinking...should i combine these 2 for my PCT?

    Post Cycle II
    Daily dosage (3 capsules):
    TESTOSTERONE BOOSTER 1500mg
    D-Aspartic Acid, Tribulus (60% saponins, 20% protodioscin), Icarrin (Horny Goat Weed), ZMA
    ESTROGEN BLOCKER 755MG
    WBM (Agaricus Bisporus), Trans Resveratrol (98%), Indole 3 Carbinol, 6 Bromo

    and...

    Test Kryponite
    Daily Dosage (6 capsules):
    Bulbine natalensis extract 500mg
    D-Aspartic Acid 3000mg
    Testosterone Amplifier blend 1100mg

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    What is the cycle you running
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callejul View Post
    What is the cycle you running
    Epistane/Havoc and Halovar
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    Can you write down your layout?
    Dosages
    Per week
    Age
    Height
    Weight
    Type of training
    Goals for this cycle
    Supps your are taking now.
    I am by no means knowlegdable but I would really like to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callejul View Post
    Can you write down your layout?
    Dosages
    Per week
    Age
    Height
    Weight
    Type of training
    Goals for this cycle
    Supps your are taking now.
    I am by no means knowlegdable but I would really like to help.
    How can you help if your not knowledgeable?

    anyway, per week 140mg halovar, and 210mg epistane/havoc. 5 week cycle

    6'4" 215lbs. Strength Training (not bodybuilding)
    Goal: increase all Dumbbell excersises by 15lbs (accomplished). increase bench by 30lbs (accomplished) increase squat by 70lbs (almost)
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    I meant "knowledgeable" as in terms I don't know it all and still learning.
    140 mg of halovar per week
    210 mg of epistane per week
    So 20 mg of halo per day and 30 for epistane correct?.
    What week are you in?
    Do you feel shutdown?
    What are your support supps? Your running two methlys so you should be running some cycle support
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    im just ending week 4. you got the doasages correct. I feel slightly shut down compard to weeks 3 and 4. I am using liver clean by power labs. and 6 bromo
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    I would recommend a serm. But if your are dead set not to get on I would do:

    AI : erase by PES or erase pro
    Formastanzol
    reversitol v2

    Test boosters :
    Testobolan v2
    Activate extreme
    Anabeta elite

    Other goodies worthy of mentioned.
    Plenty of fish oil
    Multi
    Creatine
    Protein
    Zma
    IGF 2
    Hghup
    Bcaa
    These are all just of the top of my head. Ill add more once I do some research
    Personally I would use a NON stim pre workout.
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    Bioforge v3
    MN test factor
    Lean extreme for cort control
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    No one measures ph/ds in mg a week because the half lives are far too short you need daily doses most needing to be split throughout the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Callejul View Post
    I meant "knowledgeable" as in terms I don't know it all and still learning.
    140 mg of halovar per week
    210 mg of epistane per week
    So 20 mg of halo per day and 30 for epistane correct?.
    What week are you in?
    Do you feel shutdown?
    What are your support supps? Your running two methlys so you should be running some cycle support
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards
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    Here is my comment WHY? Why do you not want to use a serm? Answer this with a logical answer and I will attempt to help you.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Here is my comment WHY? Why do you not want to use a serm? Answer this with a logical answer and I will attempt to help you.
    wait... is there a logical answer?

    kidding aside, DAA 3g/day with erase or another anti estrogen will probably be your best bet for a cost effective combo. primordial performance has a kit set up for people looking for over the counter alternatives to a SERM called the "TRS stack" which seems to be the best alternative at the moment. give it a look
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Here is my comment WHY? Why do you not want to use a serm? Answer this with a logical answer and I will attempt to help you.
    I don't think you're gonna get a logical answer for that. 10 bucks says he doesnt know a legit supplier even tho there's one right in front of him
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    The negative side effects and potential toxicity of the serm itself..
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    Minimal in comparison to the sides of estro rebound and low test, also there is the sperm issue. Next argument I can go all day with these.

    Quote Originally Posted by standon View Post
    The negative side effects and potential toxicity of the serm itself..
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards
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    O boy, Like is this thread even real or serious. No serm No cycle.

    Go see endocrinologist first. Then I will help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by standon View Post
    The negative side effects and potential toxicity of the serm itself..
    and you dont think steroids are as bad as a SERM? They are worse.
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    If you absolutely, positively, cant grab a serm run:

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    Y do i get the feeling we're all talking to an 18yo?

    You already told us you're taking 2 Orals, and you're feeling shut down. At what point are you gonna just do a little bit of homework and find a research chem site to get a serm? I'll bet another $10 you never gt bloods done pre or post cycle and truly have no clue how well you recovered. Just going by he "I feel fine" mentality
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    and you dont think steroids are as bad as a SERM? They are worse.
    no I know this but its the extra toxicity and peoples mentalities are like they arent worth it bcuz Im not getting huge off them lol
  

  
 

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