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    I know crossfit is somewhat of a bad word on here but I'm looking for some advice on running ErasePro, Anabeta, and Alpha T2. I'm a 80/20 Paleo guy, crossfit 4-5x per week... 5'9" ish 188-190lbs and trying to finish around 185lbs... What are your thoughts?

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    "Friends don't let friends CrossFit"- that being said, there is a sale in amazon if I am not mistaken for 5/3/1 , Starting Strength and some other good reads to supplement, well rather feed, you training material knowledge, and here is a freebie content of:

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    Good supplements to look into, as for the PES stack, I have nothing but marvelous things to say about PES and how they DELIVER results with their products , 100% true bro, they all work perfectly, I got a 6pack out of at2 and erase, but I think Rodja, a known Rep for PES and celebrated personal trainer will tell you they require proper training and diet knowledge, I'll give you a hint, your diet looks to be solid !
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    Paleo and crossfit? Let us make your life less painful!
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    What are you asking?
    I'd say run it as described on the label. But with crossfit I just worry about programming so if that lines up with your goals then it should add some performance and lean you out a bit.
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    I appreciate the quick feedback- as far as crossfit goes, as well all know, the 'program' you follow has to be something that works for you, something that produces the results you are after and that you are fully committed to... For me, that's crossfit. I am stronger, leaner, have better endurance, and am more flexible than ever before.
    Has anyone taken this PES cycle before? If so, what was your experience like? Since my goals are to increase lean mass and decrease body fat/body weight, I'm wondering if I should just take Erase Pro and Alpha T2 and hold off on AnaBeta? I have taken Erase at 4-5 per day and absolutely loved it, how do you think Erase Pro will compare to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Paleo and crossfit? Let us make your life less painful!
    I thought the same thing...Read the next post...We have lost yet another fellow gym-nut to crossfit...
    Quote Originally Posted by dustin12 View Post
    I appreciate the quick feedback- as far as crossfit goes, as well all know, the 'program' you follow has to be something that works for you, something that produces the results you are after and that you are fully committed to... For me, that's crossfit. I am stronger, leaner, have better endurance, and am more flexible than ever before.
    Has anyone taken this PES cycle before? If so, what was your experience like? Since my goals are to increase lean mass and decrease body fat/body weight, I'm wondering if I should just take Erase Pro and Alpha T2 and hold off on AnaBeta? I have taken Erase at 4-5 per day and absolutely loved it, how do you think Erase Pro will compare to that?

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    Please, before continuing with any advice for hormonal supplementation from a company that delivers great results...Do tell us How long have you been overdosing Erase? And how long have you been on Hormonal Supplements like (but not limited to):
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    And do describe please your usual habits...and if you can, also mention please who the f*ck told yah to dose erase at 4-5 times a day to smack him a neg train...seriously...at your weight and minimal effort "resistance" training you do NOT need more than 3 a day...and if you are gonna go bombing Erase Pro like that...heck you are gonna experience dry joints and pain that no matter how easy and ineffective crossfit is, it WILL make you wanna stop taking EP.
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    I'll leave my personal opinion on CF out of this just to keep on topic. AT2 and Anabeta shouldn't be a problem, but EP might cause some joint issues especially combined with joint unfriendly movements ubiquitous within CF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I'll leave my personal opinion on CF out of this just to keep on topic. AT2 and Anabeta shouldn't be a problem, but EP might cause some joint issues especially combined with joint unfriendly movements ubiquitous within CF.
    Ditto, specially if he pops em like Dr.House on Vicodin like he did on Erase haha.
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    OP, if you decide to add in the EP, start out with EoD dosing to assess how much it dries you out.
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    first off, lets get this straight. these products are NOT hormonal. second, if you wanna look like a soccer player, do crossfit. I could think of a million better workouts than that. third, those products make a nice stack and just take them as directed. i would take the regular erase vs Erase Pro for 8 weeks with everything else
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    first off, lets get this straight. these products are NOT hormonal. second, if you wanna look like a soccer player, do crossfit. I could think of a million better workouts than that. third, those products make a nice stack and just take them as directed. i would take the regular erase vs Erase Pro for 8 weeks with everything else
    Hm they are not PH/DS thats a given...but they do regulate and affect hormones in a person, doesn't that make them Hormonal supplements which should be cycled for tops 8 weeks on , and some 4/6 week off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    first off, lets get this straight. these products are NOT hormonal. second, if you wanna look like a soccer player, do crossfit. I could think of a million better workouts than that. third, those products make a nice stack and just take them as directed. i would take the regular erase vs Erase Pro for 8 weeks with everything else
    Erase is hormonal, wtf are you talking about?

    On topic, I agree with Rodja's suggestions. Take AT2 and Anabeta as directed. You could take EP as directed as well, but if it gets too much just drop down to an every other day dosing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    Erase is hormonal, wtf are you talking about?

    On topic, I agree with Rodja's suggestions. Take AT2 and Anabeta as directed. You could take EP as directed as well, but if it gets too much just drop down to an every other day dosing.

    so erase is a PH? i dont think so. i guess it depends what your definition is but ive always been taught and have seen hormonal as a PH/AAS per Rosie back in 2007
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla

    so erase is a PH? i dont think so. i guess it depends what your definition is but ive always been taught and have seen hormonal as a PH/AAS per Rosie back in 2007
    I said it isn't :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    so erase is a PH? i dont think so. i guess it depends what your definition is but ive always been taught and have seen hormonal as a PH/AAS per Rosie back in 2007
    It's an AI, therefore it is hormonal. It even has a steroidal structure.

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    You guys crack me up. I won't even go there.
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    Erase is hormonal, but it is not a PH/DS. AIs are hormonal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Erase is hormonal, but it is not a PH/DS. AIs are hormonal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustin12 View Post
    I know crossfit is somewhat of a bad word on here but I'm looking for some advice on running ErasePro, Anabeta, and Alpha T2. I'm a 80/20 Paleo guy, crossfit 4-5x per week... 5'9" ish 188-190lbs and trying to finish around 185lbs... What are your thoughts?
    To reach your goals the stack you have outlined is perfect...you have something to drive muscle gain, muscle hardening, and fat loss.

    What would you say your BF is at currently?

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    [QUOTE=Celorza;3435814]I thought the same thing...Read the next post...We have lost yet another fellow gym-nut to crossfit...

    Celorza, never met a 5'5" 138 lb "gym-nut," its okay though, I'll bet you're a real tough guy I'll go ahead and not pay a bit of attention to anything you have to say from this point forward.
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    I would imagine that I am probably 13-15% BF currently... looking to get to around 10. I worry about the increased hunger on AnaBeta although it does sound like not everone experiences that. One time in the past I took Licogenix over Erase/Erase Pro and thought it was a nice product, just not on the same level as Erase. What would be your recommendation on Erase or Erase Pro? I load up on fish oils and can certainly back down the dosage if I have joint problems.... what are your thoughts?
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    [QUOTE=dustin12;3436436]
    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    I thought the same thing...Read the next post...We have lost yet another fellow gym-nut to crossfit...

    Celorza, never met a 5'5" 138 lb "gym-nut," its okay though, I'll bet you're a real tough guy I'll go ahead and not pay a bit of attention to anything you have to say from this point forward.
    Awesome....
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    [QUOTE=dustin12;3436436]
    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    I thought the same thing...Read the next post...We have lost yet another fellow gym-nut to crossfit...

    Celorza, never met a 5'5" 138 lb "gym-nut," its okay though, I'll bet you're a real tough guy I'll go ahead and not pay a bit of attention to anything you have to say from this point forward.
    Well...I still mantain a non-defit record in my previous fighting endeavors before starting resistance training...but then again it is a pretty small and light weight category so if such a crossfit tough guy would indulge me to test how being a 7% body fat guy now would yield results in a cage...please by all means check if I am a tough guy or not, that is if you are around texas . I have been dying to blow off some steam as of late, and well...why not ;p! And please do not pay attention to me at all if you wish, but when my supplementation, training or diet advising is wrong , and it has been revised by higher minds than mine and concurred on that verdict, I shall then apologize to you and butt out of anyone's questions then :3!
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    I like all the tough guy talk in here . . . morons
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    Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    I like all the tough guy talk in here . . . morons
    That one was for me T.T means...back to my man-cave...(Yes I respect p5sky...) And he started it with the badgering , I merely offered a road to his salvation from CrossFit...
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    Also for those if you who like DBZ vegeta was like 5'5" 150 or something like that so......also 140 at 5'3" is a decent sized guy considering each inch of height is said to be approximately 5 lbs of bw putting celly at the approximate size of someone who is 5'10" 175 or so.

    Also with him being one of the more knowledgeable and helpful members (not on coop or rodjas level of course) it may be worth atleast considering the advice before **** talking about how awesome you are because you weigh more than him. Even if he is a dbag sometimes :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
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    Also for those if you who like DBZ vegeta was like 5'5" 150 or something like that so......also 140 at 5'3" is a decent sized guy considering each inch of height is said to be approximately 5 lbs of bw putting celly at the approximate size of someone who is 5'10" 175 or so.

    Also with him being one of the more knowledgeable and helpful members (not on coop or rodjas level of course) it may be worth atleast considering the advice before **** talking about how awesome you are because you weigh more than him. Even if he is a dbag sometimes :P
    I havent reminded you I love you today have I Jimmy? thanks :3 , And yeah heck I'm not even close to Cy or Rodja , not in a million years , but I do try to advice from the heart to help people achieve their goals, in a way to giving back this community all I've gotten from it :3 (specially from Coops advice and well many of you guys too)
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    Jesus... Some of you guys are ridiculous and out of this world. Communication skills are the key here gentleman don't talk condescendingly to someone who asks for advice. Then it turns into a defensive conversation which is going to shut someone down and that is not the best mind state for learning.

    He asked a question about supplements not his Cross fit routine. I also despise cross fit he likes it to each their own.

    Cel i've seen this happen a few times, I know you mean well bro but calm down. He wasn't asking for help on his routine. Help with what he asked. Don't be so damn aggressive : ).

    OP the supps you asked about are great for your goals. PES has a phenomenal reputation for a reason. Rodja and Natty have some great advice here and they're very knowledgeable and well respected members to gain knowledge from, good luck bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Jesus... Some of you guys are ridiculous and out of this world. Communication skills are the key here gentleman don't talk condescendingly to someone who asks for advice. Then it turns into a defensive conversation which is going to shut someone down and that is not the best mind state for learning.

    He asked a question about supplements not his Cross fit routine. I also despise cross fit he likes it to each their own.

    Cel i've seen this happen a few times, I know you mean well bro but calm down. He wasn't asking for help on his routine. Help with what he asked. Don't be so damn aggressive : ).

    OP the supps you asked about are great for your goals. PES has a phenomenal reputation for a reason. Rodja and Natty have some great advice here and they're very knowledgeable and well respected members to gain knowledge from, good luck bro!
    Yes bro T.T...but hey I was being nice at first...sort of...he made fun of my size ;'(! But true I should be more mature and not get aggressive >>...Good advice here for OP and me bro!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Jesus... Some of you guys are ridiculous and out of this world. Communication skills are the key here gentleman don't talk condescendingly to someone who asks for advice. Then it turns into a defensive conversation which is going to shut someone down and that is not the best mind state for learning.

    He asked a question about supplements not his Cross fit routine. I also despise cross fit he likes it to each their own.

    Cel i've seen this happen a few times, I know you mean well bro but calm down. He wasn't asking for help on his routine. Help with what he asked. Don't be so damn aggressive : ).

    OP the supps you asked about are great for your goals. PES has a phenomenal reputation for a reason. Rodja and Natty have some great advice here and they're very knowledgeable and well respected members to gain knowledge from, good luck bro!
    The most well thought out post on this entire thread. Rep'd....though I have a few less to give now that I've been negged for my tiny contribution above. Some people need to chill out and realize this is an internet forum...not an octagon cage. Throwing around negs isn't cool unless someone is flat out over the line. But it is what it is I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurghHardcore View Post
    The most well thought out post on this entire thread. Rep'd....though I have a few less to give now that I've been negged for my tiny contribution above. Some people need to chill out and realize this is an internet forum...not an octagon cage. Throwing around negs isn't cool unless someone is flat out over the line. But it is what it is I guess.
    Idk what you are talking about I see you have higher reps
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    bb.com like thread....

    bb.com like thread....

    Objective is to help and not attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Idk what you are talking about I see you have higher reps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Yes bro T.T...but hey I was being nice at first...sort of...he made fun of my size ;'(! But true I should be more mature and not get aggressive >>...Good advice here for OP and me bro!.
    No idea what T.T. means ya jack wagon lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPowders View Post
    bb.com like thread....

    bb.com like thread....

    Objective is to help and not attack.

    The other day Crossfit was on ESPN, Amazing!

    All I can say, it doesn't matter the exercise, just exercise and learn about it. The crossfit movement has subjected many to weight training and therefore more exposure for our industry
    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    No idea what T.T. means ya jack wagon lol
    Its kinda like a smiley with the eyes closed and tears dripping down from both...used to be on an old chat I used to use with the ex...and since i got a gf no more i have noticed these typing habits die hard hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurghHardcore

    The most well thought out post on this entire thread. Rep'd....though I have a few less to give now that I've been negged for my tiny contribution above. Some people need to chill out and realize this is an internet forum...not an octagon cage. Throwing around negs isn't cool unless someone is flat out over the line. But it is what it is I guess.
    I believe the anabolic minds motto is learn, teach, lead... Not roast, degrade and burn. Let's just try to remember that : ) we'll all hitter a lot farther in our lifting conquests if the egos are left at the door!

    We're all brothers in iron whether it be xfit, gym, hiit whatever! Peace bishes ; )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    I believe the anabolic minds motto is learn, teach, lead... Not roast, degrade and burn. Let's just try to remember that : ) we'll all hitter a lot farther in our lifting conquests if the egos are left at the door!

    We're all brothers in iron whether it be xfit, gym, hiit whatever! Peace bishes ; )
    Agreed, but in that light is where my comes can shine actually...As a fellow AM bro...I believe the motto: "Friends don't let friends CrossFit" thats why I attempted to help in that area :'3 out of pure concern for him! Specially his joints if he popped 4-5 erases and added CrossFit!!! I believe as bro's we have to look out for each other !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Agreed, but in that light is where my comes can shine actually...As a fellow AM bro...I believe the motto: "Friends don't let friends CrossFit" thats why I attempted to help in that area :'3 out of pure concern for him! Specially his joints if he popped 4-5 erases and added CrossFit!!! I believe as bro's we have to look out for each other !
    I will say as far as joints are concerned (specifically knees) crossfit can be a problem but exercise is exercise. I'd rather all of America crossfit than not exercise at all. Its just that if I did it consistently I wouldn't be able to walk without a limp :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
    I will say as far as joints are concerned (specifically knees) crossfit can be a problem but exercise is exercise. I'd rather all of America crossfit than not exercise at all. Its just that if I did it consistently I wouldn't be able to walk without a limp :P
    That be true soldier, I would love my country to at least do some form of exercise than none...seriously the amount of obesity in this country keeps getting higher and no one does anything about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    That be true soldier, I would love my country to at least do some form of exercise than none...seriously the amount of obesity in this country keeps getting higher and no one does anything about it...
    Well that one dude up in new York banned 32 oz cokes. Does that count as doing something about it?
  

  
 

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