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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Agreed, but in that light is where my comes can shine actually...As a fellow AM bro...I believe the motto: "Friends don't let friends CrossFit" thats why I attempted to help in that area :'3 out of pure concern for him! Specially his joints if he popped 4-5 erases and added CrossFit!!! I believe as bro's we have to look out for each other !
    As all this nonsense was going on I seriously had a friend text me and tell me her first week at a CrossFit gym was amazing and how much she loved it. All I said was take it easy on those shoulders and knees and be safe. It's anyones perogative to do what they want. Though crossfit certainly has it's downfalls, which are well known on this board of course, it all boils down to folks bettering themselves in a way that they enjoy. I told her I won't be joining her anytime soon, as in some circles doing Crossfit will get ya punched in the mouth LOL (kidding of course), and I have a reputation to uphold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
    I will say as far as joints are concerned (specifically knees) crossfit can be a problem but exercise is exercise. I'd rather all of America crossfit than not exercise at all. Its just that if I did it consistently I wouldn't be able to walk without a limp :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurghHardcore View Post
    As all this nonsense was going on I seriously had a friend text me and tell me her first week at a CrossFit gym was amazing and how much she loved it. All I said was take it easy on those shoulders and knees and be safe. It's anyones perogative to do what they want. Though crossfit certainly has it's downfalls, which are well known on this board of course, it all boils down to folks bettering themselves in a way that they enjoy. I told her I won't be joining her anytime soon, as in some circles doing Crossfit will get ya punched in the mouth LOL (kidding of course), and I have a reputation to uphold.
    You see , so far I have dislocated my shoulder twice over the years , once dirtbiking and once playing football in junior high...Thank the lord it has not bothered me yet even with my weights going up a LOT on seated and standing OH press, but I do tremble at the thought of hurting it or something even when I'm doing jerks or squats...One shoulder injury could take you down for good...and I have seen some BAD things happen to kids who crossfit at my gym, specially for the amount of stress they put on the joints with their ideas for routines...but lets not get into that XD there's a dime a dozen threads here dissecting every error about crossfit and like you said , it comes down to personal choice and free will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
    Well that one dude up in new York banned 32 oz cokes. Does that count as doing something about it?
    Yeah...getting them to stand up from the table and refill over and over...what do you estimate, some 2 to 3 kCalories in the whole process of refilling? Now without the sarcasm...that at least is some progress...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    You see , so far I have dislocated my shoulder twice over the years , once dirtbiking and once playing football in junior high...Thank the lord it has not bothered me yet even with my weights going up a LOT on seated and standing OH press, but I do tremble at the thought of hurting it or something even when I'm doing jerks or squats...One shoulder injury could take you down for good...and I have seen some BAD things happen to kids who crossfit at my gym, specially for the amount of stress they put on the joints with their ideas for routines...but lets not get into that XD there's a dime a dozen threads here dissecting every error about crossfit and like you said , it comes down to personal choice and free will.
    Before I shipped to OSUT I did sealfit. Which is basically an incredibly high volume crossfit and after 1 week my rotator cuff was done. There's a point where you have to know that enough is enough. Plus I'm personally not a fan of the Jack of all trades thing. I would rather excel at the things that are relevant to my goals than be average at them and be slightly better at attributes that I don't care about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
    Before I shipped to OSUT I did sealfit. Which is basically an incredibly high volume crossfit and after 1 week my rotator cuff was done. There's a point where you have to know that enough is enough. Plus I'm personally not a fan of the Jack of all trades thing. I would rather excel at the things that are relevant to my goals than be average at them and be slightly better at attributes that I don't care about.
    To the last point...if you read the website that talks about F*ckaraounditis , I share Martin Berkhams idea that when you try to please 2 masters one will be at discomfort and in the end both will be distraught by your actions. Meaning that if you try to be good at everything instead of one thing first, then you'll just suck at all you are trying to accomplish , hence training for both endurance and strength is rather pointless IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    To the last point...if you read the website that talks about F*ckaraounditis , I share Martin Berkhams idea that when you try to please 2 masters one will be at discomfort and in the end both will be distraught by your actions. Meaning that if you try to be good at everything instead of one thing first, then you'll just suck at all you are trying to accomplish , hence training for both endurance and strength is rather pointless IMO.
    Well on a related note I train for both at the same time. Granted I only do that by limiting my rest and using a reverse pyramid Rep scheme which allows me to use less rest by dropping the weight and hitting it for more reps than the previous set. It has been working so far and the pump is awesome which is a big plus. I still keep the reps between six and twelve though. I don't like to go over that for many exercises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
    Well on a related note I train for both at the same time. Granted I only do that by limiting my rest and using a reverse pyramid Rep scheme which allows me to use less rest by dropping the weight and hitting it for more reps than the previous set. It has been working so far and the pump is awesome which is a big plus. I still keep the reps between six and twelve though. I don't like to go over that for many exercises.
    On that note , you do proper resistance and Intensity training , not CrossFit and you know what I meant on that note my friend. I meant that trying to combine many aspects into one training "style" or "routine" is like throwing in 20 test boosters + 4 AIs + 3 cortisol controls + lemon juice on a blender , If you just took 1 of each...still the same result without injury , the injury in this metaphor , to your wallet and mind since you won't see any better results from just doing so haha.
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    I didn't read all the posts here but I aside from whatever bashing CF might have gotten it's not really an aesthetic or optimal health routine. It's a sport. I'm sure tossing around barbells and running isn't something most gym bros think is right but all sports started off some where and I'm sure had hate. Hell americans love football, most ppl where I live don't understand it at all. CF is probably in that same light. And with what rodja said about it producing more injuries etc. Yip, it'll also sell more supplements. With that all said:

    OP: you're supplement choices will help out in getting stronger and possibly leaning out. If you are worried about increased hunger on AnaBeta just try to keep a food log. If you don't weigh out all your food then try to eye out what you eat and not stray to far from it if your goals are to lose fat. I have run Anabeta twice and erase around 4 times. I actually haven't noticed any hunger at all. But that's more because I tend to eat a lot more fat than most do (and more food in general). Erase does dry my joints a tad bit but I've run it at around 150mg a day before and 2 pill (50mg) seems to be the spot where I don't get joint pains. But still, training, systemic inflammation can all play a role as my joints are amazing now and I'm on an even stronger AI.
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    What kind of crossfit program are you on? If you're on the original with all the metcons, I'd switch to the football program while you runs these. Your gains will be awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J19891
    What kind of crossfit program are you on? If you're on the original with all the metcons, I'd switch to the football program while you runs these. Your gains will be awesome.
    With regards to programming, he is right. Cffb is great. And John Welbourne is a beast!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    ...he made fun of my size ;'(!
    Celorza you are short as ****. Wanna play basketball?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
    Celorza you are short as ****. Wanna play basketball?
    One of this days you are gonna be sitting down brother, and I'll be on top of a box or bench...standing of course...and I'll be able to punch you for this, in a more appropriate spot rather than your shins for a change! hahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    One of this days you are gonna be sitting down brother, and I'll be on top of a box or bench...standing of course...and I'll be able to punch you for this, in a more appropriate spot rather than your shins for a change! hahahaha
    lol. Hey at least you can drive sports cars comfortably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
    lol. Hey at least you can drive sports cars comfortably.
    And admire you mighty big and lean physique from a better point of view to remind me why you are AntMan from our avenger gang !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    And admire you mighty big and lean physique from a better point of view to remind me why you are AntMan from our avenger gang !


    I'ma tear **** up. Me and my... ants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
    Celorza you are short as ****. Wanna play basketball?
    ever seen Spud Web dunk?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=H5wBI98NXEE


    that dude can fly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappy244 View Post
    ever seen Spud Web dunk?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=H5wBI98NXEE


    that dude can fly!


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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post


    OMG! Short people CAN dunk!
    well, Spud Web and Earl Boykins. I don't know of any other small NBA players. . . But hey, there are/were at least 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole

    I'ma tear **** up. Me and my... ants?
    <3!!! And yes bro we small people can fly when properly trained to do so but not me...I sucked a ball hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappy244

    well, Spud Web and Earl Boykins. I don't know of any other small NBA players. . . But hey, there are/were at least 2
    Look up mugsy bogues 5'2" or 5'3" and dude could dunk. Calves were huge, he was one of my favorite players being a shorter guy myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    <3!!! when properly trained to do so but not me...I sucked a ball hahaha
    Wait... What?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Wait... What?!
    Sucked...AT...ball hahahahahaha , I was never good at Basket Ball , but was rather a good line backer back in my football days hahaah xD being so small helped to go in for the knees or waist, hence giving me more torque over the bigger guys, and they had to practically go balls to the floor to tackle me if they wanted to haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Sucked...AT...ball hahahahahaha , I was never good at Basket Ball , but was rather a good line backer back in my football days hahaah xD being so small helped to go in for the knees or waist, hence giving me more torque over the bigger guys, and they had to practically go balls to the floor to tackle me if they wanted to haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez
    Don't scare him away aminal!! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    I'm glad you picked up on the sarcasm... This is going to be a love hate thing between you and I
    ... ; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza
    B1tch I'm Fabulous ! hahahahaha JK ok too gay xD!
    Nope perfectly you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez

    I'm glad you picked up on the sarcasm... This is going to be a love hate thing between you and I
    ... ; )

    As Co-founders of Alpha Crew we have to learn to look past our differences for the greater good of getting hyooger bro...

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    B1tch I'm Fabulous ! hahahahaha JK ok too gay xD!
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    Nooo kidding- I had to scroll through 2 pages to get to anything that I was looking for... Purchased Ana Beta, Alpha T2, and Erase last night.... My plan will be to run this for 8 weeks. If I experience the increased hunger on AB, I need to make sure I feed those cravings with quality food. Will be on strict paleo with 1-3 cheat meals per week.
    My crossfit programming is 4-5 days per week. 8-12 minute metcon(sometimes 15-20 min AMRAP) followed by a cash out and then strength work. At the end of the day, Crossfit works for me--- physically and mentally-I'm fully committed
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustin12 View Post
    Nooo kidding- I had to scroll through 2 pages to get to anything that I was looking for... Purchased Ana Beta, Alpha T2, and Erase last night.... My plan will be to run this for 8 weeks. If I experience the increased hunger on AB, I need to make sure I feed those cravings with quality food. Will be on strict paleo with 1-3 cheat meals per week.
    My crossfit programming is 4-5 days per week. 8-12 minute metcon(sometimes 15-20 min AMRAP) followed by a cash out and then strength work. At the end of the day, Crossfit works for me--- physically and mentally-I'm fully committed
    My whole reason for this thread was to discuss 3 great products by PES and to have others agree or disagree(and input) as to whether or not these products would continue me down the path of my goals.
    true, but no offence bud, you did get Celorza sidetracked when you attacked the validity of his comments based purely on his genetic predisposition. You own some (albeit a small portion) of the nonsense.

    With that said, I hope you keep us up dated on your progress. I am interested to hear how these sups help you with your goals, I'm interested in taking this stack as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappy244

    true, but no offence bud, you did get Celorza sidetracked when you attacked the validity of his comments based purely on his genetic predisposition. You own some (albeit a small portion) of the nonsense.

    With that said, I hope you keep us up dated on your progress. I am interested to hear how these sups help you with your goals, I'm interested in taking this stack as well.
    Genetic predisposition? Gimme a break my buddy at my station is 5'5" 180 get real...
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