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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbeezee

    I USE straps and my grip is much stronger than what it was before I didn't use them.
    I can guarantee the straps are not what strengthened your grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542

    I can guarantee the straps are not what strengthened your grip.
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    Well todays chest workout was unreal!
    I was a little gun shy about throwing around some weight but my back held up just fine. From last week I feel that my bench has grown a little from incline,flat and decline. I hit the weights with a lot of aggression today ad it felt great! I usually find it hard to channel aggression when I lift because I'm a pretty calm guy. I usually rely on focus and energy to push out extra weights and reps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
    I can guarantee the straps are not what strengthened your grip.
    Double this, im proud to say i've never used straps in my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy

    Double this, im proud to say i've never used straps in my life.
    I have to use them for my heavier sets of DL and shrugs. But I try to go without them for as long as I am able so I can strengthen my grip to the point where I will no longer need them at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
    I have to use them for my heavier sets of DL and shrugs. But I try to go without them for as long as I am able so I can strengthen my grip to the point where I will no longer need them at all.
    For something like shrugs or heavy rows i think theyre of assistance, but I just always think of those as secondary measures to increase my grip strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy

    For something like shrugs or heavy rows i think theyre of assistance, but I just always think of those as secondary measures to increase my grip strength.
    I don't use them for the rows but I also don't row 300 pounds :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542

    I don't use them for the rows but I also don't row 300 pounds :P
    If my grip ever becomes the weak link on an exercise I will use them, for example on later sets of deads or RDLs where my grip has been exhausted but my legs/back can still handle the extra weight
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa

    If my grip ever becomes the weak link on an exercise I will use them, for example on later sets of deads or RDLs where my grip has been exhausted but my legs/back can still handle the extra weight
    That's how I tend to use them.
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    Today I did back minus deadlifts.. The work out felt amazing. I am noticing increased vascularity and I am drying out quite a bit. I am sort of bloated though.. Anyone else experience that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becks18 View Post
    Today I did back minus deadlifts.. The work out felt amazing. I am noticing increased vascularity and I am drying out quite a bit. I am sort of bloated though.. Anyone else experience that?
    sounds like fun, keep it safe man. have you considered substituting leg press for squats? sounds like your a free weight type of guy that's why I ask.
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    I do squats as part of my leg routine or big lift days. The only reason why I was using a machine when I got hurt was to rep out at the end of my workout. That didn't end well LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542

    I don't use them for the rows but I also don't row 300 pounds :P
    That's exactly my point. I row 225 for reps and 100-130's for one arm db rows. I like to concentrate on feeling the muscle not worry about grip. Anyway. Back to the OP. not here for a pissing contest about straps bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becks18 View Post
    Today I did back minus deadlifts.. The work out felt amazing. I am noticing increased vascularity and I am drying out quite a bit. I am sort of bloated though.. Anyone else experience that?
    DAA sometimes makes me retain water, even on an AI. It usually clears up a bit further into the cycle though.
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    Nice!
    Well I have been off the gym for the last two days but I do very physical work for a living, so I am getting my workouts in! I am looking even more cut and there are veins in my biceps that I've never had before! So far
    So good!!
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    Little update.
    I haven been able to work out as hard as I wanted to in the first 6 days of this stack.. But I am back at it hitting the weights hard. I am noticing separation now between muscle groups that I didn't have before. Especially in my traps! I can tell my test levels are elevated because I am getting crazy acne on my face and I am pretty quick to get mad without thinking about it. It's day twelve of this cycle and from why I read, the biggest results are yet to come!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becks18 View Post
    Little update.
    I haven been able to work out as hard as I wanted to in the first 6 days of this stack.. But I am back at it hitting the weights hard. I am noticing separation now between muscle groups that I didn't have before. Especially in my traps! I can tell my test levels are elevated because I am getting crazy acne on my face and I am pretty quick to get mad without thinking about it. It's day twelve of this cycle and from why I read, the biggest results are yet to come!
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    Update:
    I've been hitting the gym hard and my diet has been really good... I feel great and I feel as if I am drying up a bi,but no big gains.. Here's the latest picture. You guys be the judge.




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    My before photos look better I think..
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    Day 21 update.


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    I have had the greatest compliments of my life while I have been progressing in this stack. I have many people who think I am on Anibolics, including two nurses my fiancÚ works with! Hahaha they approached my girl and said that I have gotten a lot bigger in the last couple months and wanted to inform her of the risks of steroids hahaha
    I have kept my calorie intake clean and around 3500 since I started this stack. Normally when I intake this many calories I tend to gain a lot of fat. But I am getting bigger and leaning out a little. All in all it's been a good ride.
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    nice work! your arms are looking swole
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    Thanks!
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    Taking DAA product for almost three weeks now, mine kicked in the first day with nightmares. Strength increase while dieting manifested within 4 or 5 days
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    I haven't had dreams with DAA. I did hen I was taking ZMA. I really should have taken measurements before I started the stack because I never see progress on myself.. Even if others tell me I'm making progress.. I think I may have a condition LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becks18 View Post
    I haven't had dreams with DAA. I did hen I was taking ZMA. I really should have taken measurements before I started the stack because I never see progress on myself.. Even if others tell me I'm making progress.. I think I may have a condition LOL
    I hear ya' man, I will always look small and flabby in the mirror (my dehydrated weight is around 155, so I am small). my scale says I'm 15lbs bigger than I was 8 months ago, but I can't see it. But hey, I can run like a moe'faux so come Z-day, I doubt I'll be corpse food

    taking measurements is a good idea, it just requires an extra set of hands. Keep it up man, you won't backslide if you have forward momentum!
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    So this is my last day of the stack. I have to say that I am impressed but I think it should be run for 8 weeks for maximum results.. Too bad I live in Canada and don't have quick access to erase.
    I ate pretty clean during the stack. I at 3500-4000 calories a day. Usually when I eat this much I gain a lot of water and some fat. The fat stayed off and I got a bit bigger! I definitely look dryer as well. I trained heavy and hard after my injury healed up, mixing up my training days with heavy day and pyramiding down to failure and using the 4X method on other days. The attitude from the test boost wore off on day 20 or so.. But we'll see if i just got used to it, and how miserable I get when I'm off the test booster lol
    I have made some great progress in the last 7 months . I am extremely happy where I am right now.. But of course I want to cut a bit more. I will be using this stack again next time I find it on sale!!!

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    Arms definitely appear larger/leaner.
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    Thanks a lot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becks18 View Post
    Thanks a lot!
    No problem man, just telling you like it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy View Post
    Arms definitely appear larger/leaner.
    I agree
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    Thanks a lot. The great thing is that I don't have an "arm day" in my routine. I just hit them quickly after I'm done a complementary workout.
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