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  1.  06-09-2012  04:50 PM
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    Maybe next month I'll try it out, based on how everything goes. How should the aniracetam be dosed?

    The reason I have been asking all these questions the past couple weeks is I never knew about nootropics before, and I have always had problems with memory and concentration. Misplacing objects for instance, or looking for a single object on a table full of things, I sometimes need to scan 2-3 times before I find what I am looking for. Forgetting numbers that I had just looked at. There are other things that are harder to explain, I always felt like this behavior has been holding me back. Sometimes lack of focus effects my workouts as well. If there are ways to improve upon this even a little it will be well worth it. Some of these things I have been reading about almost sound custom made for me lol.



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    Originally Posted by boogyman View Post
    Maybe next month I'll try it out, based on how everything goes. How should the aniracetam be dosed?

    The reason I have been asking all these questions the past couple weeks is I never knew about nootropics before, and I have always had problems with memory and concentration. Misplacing objects for instance, or looking for a single object on a table full of things, I sometimes need to scan 2-3 times before I find what I am looking for. Forgetting numbers that I had just looked at. There are other things that are harder to explain, I always felt like this behavior has been holding me back. Sometimes lack of focus effects my workouts as well. If there are ways to improve upon this even a little it will be well worth it. Some of these things I have been reading about almost sound custom made for me lol.
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    Originally Posted by boogyman
    Maybe next month I'll try it out, based on how everything goes. How should the aniracetam be dosed?

    The reason I have been asking all these questions the past couple weeks is I never knew about nootropics before, and I have always had problems with memory and concentration. Misplacing objects for instance, or looking for a single object on a table full of things, I sometimes need to scan 2-3 times before I find what I am looking for. Forgetting numbers that I had just looked at. There are other things that are harder to explain, I always felt like this behavior has been holding me back. Sometimes lack of focus effects my workouts as well. If there are ways to improve upon this even a little it will be well worth it. Some of these things I have been reading about almost sound custom made for me lol.
    Don't get your expectations too high. You'll have to do some experimenting and I suggest not going "kitchen sink" all at once. Try to observe how things work by themselves so you know what is what.

    Also be aware when looking at user reviews that placebo runs rampant with this stuff, and even moreso when the great nootropic caffeine is involved. Research is sparse in healthy humans.

    I have attention problems and I'd call the effects of just about everything on the market that is not a stimulant modest at best. Can't comment on any non-pira racetam, but I'm dubious.

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    I have been fairly immune to the placebo effect, so I am not worried about that. I remember first trying RPM, 2 of my friends raved about how great it was. I bought a bottle and ran it out (it was a big bottle too, 240 caps I think), and other than the stim effect it really did not do much for me. As for experimenting , thats what I am doing. I have been looking for a preworkout thats more than just "stim", and FocusXT seems to have what I am looking for. In doing research for that I came across ALCAR, and I am going to try it for a couple months to see what effects it has. The good thing about it is its fairly inexpensive.

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    Focus XT is well formulated. If it doesn't work, there is a good chance not much will. Focus XT plus a racetam will be about as good as it gets, as far as the limited research and anecdote can tell us.

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    Aniracetam is the real deal, no question. It has more of a recall and focus strength, but I found (and many others have) that it is far superior to anything else for anxiety. That in itself is what helps the focus- having the calm mind and being able to compartmentalize things.

    I stopped taking extra choline because I was getting headaches and now just take 750mg with 500mg alcar and 120mg of Rhodiola in the morning and again at about 2pm.

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    Originally Posted by Angelbolic

    They should be the same. But nobody really knows without lab tests. Go with the company you trust the most.
    I totally noticed a difference in quality. So did my brother who actually brought it up to me first.
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    I ordered a different Primaforce product once that didn't work. A few others on another board had the same problem as well. A thread was started, no action was taken by the Primaforce team. This went on for several months. So as far as I'm concerned I'm done with purchasing anything from their line. SNS, however, has been nothing but helpful to me over the years, and provide good quality, effective products.

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    I never used anything from Primaforce, but I have used a few SNS products, and they all have been quality. The reps are also very helpful.

    Slightly off topic, how good is the nutraplanet bulk stuff? I was thinking of trying the bulk Cissus powder as its really inexpensive and had good reviews, and the Na-R-ALA powder.

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    Originally Posted by boogyman View Post
    I never used anything from Primaforce, but I have used a few SNS products, and they all have been quality. The reps are also very helpful.

    Slightly off topic, how good is the nutraplanet bulk stuff? I was thinking of trying the bulk Cissus powder as its really inexpensive and had good reviews, and the Na-R-ALA powder.
    Can't speak to the cissus (although I can say that SNS brand is now shipping to nutra ), but the Na-R-ALA powder is top-notch.
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    Buy the bulk SuperCissus Rx

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    Originally Posted by RVAPump View Post
    in my experience, and this has much more to do with product quality than the douchebag who runs a certain company...

    SNS > PrimaForce

    one use of the citrulline malate from the two companies and you'd see why
    Agreed. The difference in the citmal was incredible.
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    I just bought SNS Cit Mal & COP

    I will compare it to Primaforce since all I been taking for months has been Primaforce.

    Ill let u know if I feel anything different.

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    let us know, we're stepping up out game, big things comming from sns!

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    Originally Posted by pressureSpike View Post
    I just bought SNS Cit Mal & COP

    I will compare it to Primaforce since all I been taking for months has been Primaforce.

    Ill let u know if I feel anything different.
    I'm particularly interested on your thoughts with respect to the citrulline malate. The feedback we've been getting is outstanding
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    Will do shipment has been shipped

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    Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    I have used both brands and generally find that im pleased more with our brand.
    I've used both and have to agree with this. I'm also excited about the cissus, my joints will be happy for that.
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    Originally Posted by kingjameskjf

    I've used both and have to agree with this. I'm also excited about the cissus, my joints will be happy for that.
    I need to pick some up
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