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    Quote Originally Posted by JReinhal
    I made a thread showing before and after blood tests results. I had an increase of almost 25% testosterone in about 5 weeks on Intimidate . What really put me over the edge was Testabolan V2. My free testosterone was flagged as High on the blood work results.
    So u stacked v2 and intimidate? No AI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa

    I made the decision that he cost benefits weren't there to spend more on intimidate...might have made a mistake on that one...

    Maybe I will run 8 weeks of intimidate with erase after my next daa/erase/endosurge stack in august. I will be running blood work every month so that should clear things up
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    Can intimidate be taken with sleep aids or pm fat burners/cort / gh products like lean dreams, REM pm, sleep max, etc.. Basically GABA, 5htp, valerian, melatonin type products; phosphatidylserine, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza
    Can intimidate be taken with sleep aids or pm fat burners/cort / gh products like lean dreams, REM pm, sleep max, etc.. Basically GABA, 5htp, valerian, melatonin type products; phosphatidylserine, etc
    Ive been taking it with ZMA... works like a charm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theniteman

    Ive been taking it with ZMA... works like a charm.
    Ya I'd like to ideally do zma+intim+ pm burner which usually contain sleep aids / gh factors.. Just wondering if there's any negative interactions with the pm burners
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza

    So u stacked v2 and intimidate? No AI?
    Sorry. There was more. Intimidate/Testabolan V2/Erase Pro/Anabeta Elite. I ended up looking like a sexy bitch with blood test results to back it. =)
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    What about intimidate with Mucuna before bed? Obviously to stop prolactin issues, I was going to stack hghup or IGF2 with it as both say take before bed! Is that ok or will one not work taken at the same time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JReinhal

    Sorry. There was more. Intimidate/Testabolan V2/Erase Pro/Anabeta Elite. I ended up looking like a sexy bitch with blood test results to back it. =)
    Damn I thought I took a lot at once! That's intense, I like it lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Damn I thought I took a lot at once! That's intense, I like it lol
    I didn't know you actually took supplements I just thought you traded them like baseball cards, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackedCop

    I didn't know you actually took supplements I just thought you traded them like baseball cards, lol
    Lmfao! good one.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackedCop

    I didn't know you actually took supplements I just thought you traded them like baseball cards, lol
    Funny! Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza

    Ya I'd like to ideally do zma+intim+ pm burner which usually contain sleep aids / gh factors.. Just wondering if there's any negative interactions with the pm burners
    Can I get a bump on this from iforce.
    Prob got overlooked a page back
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Can I get a bump on this from iforce.
    Prob got overlooked a page back
    what is a PM burner? you mean a non-stim fat burner, or a sleep aid product?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

    what is a PM burner? you mean a non-stim fat burner, or a sleep aid product?
    Well it's essentially both in one.. Like alri lean dreams or controlled labs reduction pm, nrgx sleep maxx, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Well it's essentially both in one.. Like alri lean dreams or controlled labs reduction pm, nrgx sleep maxx, etc.
    Rest assured, these "PM burners" aren't burning any fat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Rest assured, these "PM burners" aren't burning any fat...
    U keep crushing my dreams coop..

    Pm's full btw lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by JReinhal View Post
    Sorry. There was more. Intimidate/Testabolan V2/Erase Pro/Anabeta Elite. I ended up looking like a sexy bitch with blood test results to back it. =)
    I've been doing a bit of reading on this and have followed your lead and ordered the above stack (with ZMA, a multi, and i use Jack3d as a preworkout but only once a week [for legs], if that).

    anything else you would recommend that would be necessary to maximize gains/prevent any unwanted sides during or after the stack?

    I'm in my mid 30s, have been training for over a decade, and have moved from more powerlifting/strength focussed training to body building (4 day split, 8-12 reps, lots more exercise variety), loving it.

    thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Rest assured, these "PM burners" aren't burning any fat...
    Just those particular products, or is it just not possible to increase metabolism or fat burning while sleeping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa View Post
    Just those particular products, or is it just not possible to increase metabolism or fat burning while sleeping?
    Most products advertised as sleep aids + fat burners fail to do any fat burning. I guess if you put TTA, raspberry ketones, and green coffee bean in a pre-bed product, you could call it a PM burner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasperhup View Post
    I've been doing a bit of reading on this and have followed your lead and ordered the above stack (with ZMA, a multi, and i use Jack3d as a preworkout but only once a week [for legs], if that).

    anything else you would recommend that would be necessary to maximize gains/prevent any unwanted sides during or after the stack?

    I'm in my mid 30s, have been training for over a decade, and have moved from more powerlifting/strength focussed training to body building (4 day split, 8-12 reps, lots more exercise variety), loving it.

    thanks.
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    For those six weeks I upped my organic red meat intake as well. All in all it was a success and very surprising for such a short period of time.
    The only side effect was low libido which, after talking with folks on this forum, was due to my estrogen getting crushed by the Erase Pro. I went EOD with it and libido mostly normalized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    How do u get consistent blood work done??

    Per this thread: Cheap Bloodwork - How to Get It WITHOUT Insurance
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    Quote Originally Posted by JReinhal
    Thank you sir
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Can I get a bump on this from iforce.
    Prob got overlooked a page back
    You will be fine stacking all of those. But I'll get a definite answer for you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Great info. The divanil found in Tv2 actually decreases total test(doesn't matter relax) while significantly increasing free test. Doesn't surprise me one bit your FT was over the limit
    So can you explain exactly what the divanil is? This is a natty product (like anabeta elite) and not a prohormone right?
    I see they have a deal with reservitol for an AI.. Is that necessary, or would normal erase be ok? (already have a bottle of erase)
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    a lot of people LOVE the erase intimidate stack.
    Divanil is also known as stinging nettle

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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230
    a lot of people LOVE the erase intimidate stack.
    Divanil is also known as stinging nettle

    check out THIS....Real results stack!
    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/p...ntimidate.html
    Yeah I bought myself that, after hearing homeboys above success I was interested in the testobolanv2
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    Divanil binds to SHBG and ABP to increase your free testosterone levels. The ALCAR found in Tv2 has shown to increase
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue
    Divanil binds to SHBG and ABP to increase your free testosterone levels. The ALCAR found in Tv2 has shown to increase
    NMDA receptor sensitivity
    Is it different than standard capped alcar from say primaforce or sns? I take 500mg w meals and Pre workout for almost 2 years straight now.. Good/bad idea?
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    I have been taking SNS DAA on an empty stomach with ZMA right before bed for almost a month now and I have been getting the best sleep in years. Unless I have to pee I dont wake once, and even then I fall back to sleep instantly. Been remembering my dreams more, not sure if that means anything. Feel more rested in the morning for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Is it different than standard capped alcar from say primaforce or sns? I take 500mg w meals and Pre workout for almost 2 years straight now.. Good/bad idea?

    ALCAR = ALCAR. Tv2 contains a full 2000mg/day at recommended dosing(so a full 30 days in 1 bottle).
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

    ALCAR = ALCAR. Tv2 contains a full 2000mg/day at recommended dosing(so a full 30 days in 1 bottle).
    Nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by boogyman View Post
    I have been taking SNS DAA on an empty stomach with ZMA right before bed for almost a month now and I have been getting the best sleep in years. Unless I have to pee I dont wake once, and even then I fall back to sleep instantly. Been remembering my dreams more, not sure if that means anything. Feel more rested in the morning for sure.
    Good to hear!

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    ALCAR = ALCAR. Tv2 contains a full 2000mg/day at recommended dosing(so a full 30 days in 1 bottle).
    Just picked up 3 bottles for 10 bucks a piece!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Good to hear!

    Just picked up 3 bottles for 10 bucks a piece!
    Jealous!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Good to hear!



    Just picked up 3 bottles for 10 bucks a piece!
    You beat me to it! Sold out now...should have pulled the trigger...
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa

    You beat me to it! Sold out now...should have pulled the trigger...
    Where was it at?
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    I've been using Intimidate for a couple of weeks now. Most nights I sleep pretty well but occasionally wake up with panic attacks. Iíve never had this problem with regular DAA. Iím a bit concerned about the ďmore is betterĒ approach. I havenít seen any studies indicating that higher levels of DAA are more beneficial than the 3 gm. used in the original test. Iím also concerned about the safety of higher dosing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    I've been using Intimidate for a couple of weeks now. Most nights I sleep pretty well but occasionally wake up with panic attacks. I’ve never had this problem with regular DAA. I’m a bit concerned about the “more is better” approach. I haven’t seen any studies indicating that higher levels of DAA are more beneficial than the 3 gm. used in the original test. I’m also concerned about the safety of higher dosing.
    we don't suggest using more than 30mg/day of Intimidate.

    Intimidate causes an increase in REM sleep. This may cause people to dream, or have nightmares more often. This is most likely(but not 100%) the cause of said panic attacks.
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