best recomp aid
- 06-01-2012, 08:22 PM
best recomp aid
Planning on doing a 3 year long lean bulk starting august. Planning on doing 8 week bulk where I would stack a test booster and an ai, then 4 week recomp where I slightly drop cals to close to maintenance and add a day of cardio. Repeat every 12 weeks (first would this make sense?)
Second, what would the best recomp aid or aids be for this situation? Interested in hearing some opinions on this
- 06-01-2012, 08:25 PM
A 3 year lean bulk? Are you only going to eat like 5 calories over maintenance?
Just kidding, your approach could work, though 3 years is probably a little ambitious. Over time, fat will accumulate and you may have to cut sooner than you expected.
The best recomp aids I've ever used are: SNS Reduce XT, Ergogenix Ergobolic, EC stack, and X-Factor. Pick any or all of those. As for as what I haven't used: Anabeta Elite looks like a killer recomp agent.
06-01-2012, 08:39 PM
Haha, that's why I was thinking recomping every 8 weeks would be good. I am 2 weeks out from my last comp at about 190 dry at 3-4%bf and I would like to reach 250 at all the while staying under 10%bf. I did a 9 month straight bulk last year going from 176 at competiton to 222 but felt I put on too much fat and took far too long to get to competition weight, even though I put on some solid size.Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
As far as the products I will take a comparison, but those are all stackable? I was planning on doing an 8 week run of anabeta w erase as part of a bulk, but would that be more suited for a 4 week recomp? Would I be able to take a 4 week run of Anabeta solo immediately following an 8 week run of say daa/erase/endosurge? Or would I need a 4 week break in between the two?
06-01-2012, 08:42 PM
This is what I'd do:
Recomp 1: Anabeta Elite + Ergobolic + EC
Recomp 2: Reduce XT + X-Factor/LCLT/GMS + EC
06-01-2012, 08:44 PM
Anything that would sub for the EC? I believe that is a banned substance for the BB fed I compete with.Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
06-01-2012, 09:12 PM
06-01-2012, 09:22 PM
Not on the banned list, but I will double check with the organizers. Thanks for the knowledge!Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
06-01-2012, 10:30 PM
For the 8-week stack re recomp, I would recommend Erase and AnaBeta, stacking in Recompadrol with it when it comes available. Just saw that you're going to use Erase and AnaBeta already (re quote below), and yes, they are a great recomp stack - they can be used for ANY body goal, really, and your results are primarily going to depend on your nutrition and training set-up.
06-02-2012, 02:24 PM
Thanks for the info! I was under the impression that a gda is unnecessary to take with anabeta since it has a lot of those properties on its own. Thoughts?Originally Posted by Rosie Chee
06-02-2012, 03:27 PM
06-02-2012, 03:46 PM
Hard to justify throwing down $35 on another gda when I have 6 bottles of slin sane and at least 2 slin shot...even as good as I've heard recompadrol is! If only I could spend all my money on supps...Originally Posted by Rosie Chee
06-02-2012, 04:15 PM
06-02-2012, 04:21 PM
06-02-2012, 05:27 PM
06-02-2012, 05:36 PM
06-02-2012, 05:38 PM
They've pretty much made a total joke out of it tbh. And Rosie has been ripped apart for peddling that sh!t too....Avoid that fairy dust like the plague.
06-02-2012, 05:42 PM
Well seeing as it's natty I would assume it's not going to be as effective as the more hardcore stuff. I've never used it myself, but I have seen many positive reviews both here and on the BB.com Supps forum.
06-02-2012, 05:47 PM
There are some great products out there on the market. The small number of them are surrounded by thousands of Anabeta's. In other words, you've got to shift through all the BS to find the hidden gems.
06-02-2012, 05:52 PM
I went through 2 bottles of anabeta and loved it. Bought both of themOriginally Posted by oscarBravado
06-02-2012, 05:56 PM
06-02-2012, 05:57 PM
06-02-2012, 06:09 PM
Don't these people realize that it wasn't the product....? They're discrediting themselves when they say this...it wasn't the product, it was you! You lost that weight, you gained that mass...if you want to lose weight, it's calories in VS. calories out...that's what is making people lose weight, not a goddamn OTC supplement. The supplement industry is one of the greatest scams ever...99.9% of everything they produce is a total crock of **** people working under the radar of the FDA have made a fortune peddling snake oil to impressionable kids and ignorant daydreamers that will pretty much buy into any old heap of crap.
I'm not condoning steroid use - far from it. That **** is seriously dangerous and will fry your f*cking liver but it's the only thing that actually works. Other than that, protein and creatine you can get from red meat. Eat a f*cking steak, man....that will do far more for you than these bull**** products everyone is trying to sell you. Get your diet in check and change your lifting routine - then you will get to where you want to go. No supplement going to do that for you.
06-02-2012, 06:40 PM
By your reasoning there is no need at all for natty supps at all, and they are all bunk and cannot help one iota. I think that's absolutely ridiculous. My diet & training have been 100% on point for my cut, for example, and I hit a sticking point at 5% BF that I didn't get through until I stacked Dexaprine & LX. Do supps make up for a ****ty diet? Of course not. Do people waste a **** ton of money on supps when their diet and training are terrible? Of course. But to say that natty supps can't or won't help someone who has a strong diet & training program get stronger/faster/leaner/bigger/etc. is outrageous.
06-02-2012, 06:45 PM
The funny thing is a lot of people say that supplements help them about 5%. These same people take about 15-20 different supplements a day. If they really only helped 5 percent than you are really spending way too much money to get a five percent difference that you could make up on your own with diet and training changes.
06-02-2012, 06:46 PM
06-02-2012, 08:15 PM
Have you yourself actually ran anabeta or just going off of others reviews?Originally Posted by oscarBravado
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06-02-2012, 08:29 PM
If you're not sold on the Anabeta hype, try Natadrol. Half as expensive, twice as effective IMO. Get your diet in order before thinking supplements though!
06-02-2012, 11:34 PM
06-02-2012, 11:48 PM
I have to disagree on the supplement industry being the biggest scam ever.Originally Posted by oscarBravado
I can assure you personally that my diet is on point along with my training routine. In fact there are lots of members on who who have everything on point they could also say supplements have truly helped them.. I can also say the products that I have bought with my own money have played a big role in helping.
Also I know lots of people who have gotten blood work done before and after a cycle of a test booster etc.
If it wasn't for some of the supplements I take I'd be stuck for a while.
06-03-2012, 10:08 AM
I have taken Anabete two times for a month at 4 caps/day. The first time on a cut, the second time on a high carb bulk. Its very hard for me to say if Anabeta really made a difference. But thats with most of the supps that ive tried. Perhaps the expectations were too high. E. g. from X-Factor Advanced i also expected much more than i got from it. Some were saying this would be the only natty supp that gives PH like gains and you could add 10lbs of LBM during a cycle. To be quite frank the only two supps that really impressed me so far were Bioforge V3 and Triazole. Tomorrow i will start with Erase/DAA. We will see how this works...
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