Best supps for am training on empty stomach. Goal is getting lean.
- 05-31-2012, 07:57 PM
- 05-31-2012, 07:57 PM
05-31-2012, 08:39 PM
Relevant to the BCAA intake and its effect on insulin discussion
The effects of BCAAs intake on insulin
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05-31-2012, 08:47 PM
05-31-2012, 09:00 PM
again, the human studies were 10mg yohimbine 2x a day, with no restrictions on meals around the doses and had significant fat loss
significant bodyfat difference in 21 days.... WITHOUT worrying about insulin or eating.The main aim of this study was to determine the effects of yohimbine supplementation on body composition and exercise performance in professional soccer players. The athletes (20 top-level male soccer players) were allocated to two randomly assigned trials. Subjects in the yohimbine group orally ingested tablets that contains yohimbine at a dose of 20 milligrams per day in two equal doses for 21 days. Subjects in the placebo group ingested an equal number of identical-looking pills that contained cellulose. There were no statistically significant changes in body mass and muscle mass within or between trials (p > 0.05) after the supplementation protocol. Percentage of body fat significantly decreased in the yohimbine group after the supplementation protocol (9.3 +/- 1.1 vs. 7.1 +/- 2.2%; p < 0.05). Furthermore, fat mass was significantly lower in the yohimbine versus placebo trial at postsupplementation assessment (7.1 +/- 2.2 vs. 9.2 +/- 1.9%; p < 0.05). There were no changes in exercise performance indicators (bench and leg press, vertical jump, dribble and power test results, shuttle run) within or between. trials (p > 0.05). No subject reported any side effects from yohimbine. The results of the current study indicate that supplementation with yohimbine combined with resistance training does not significantly alter the body mass, muscle mass, or performance indicators in professional soccer players. Nonetheless, yohimbine supplementation appears to be suitable as a fat loss strategy in elite athletes.
05-31-2012, 10:18 PM
The only thing that I am unsure of is the fact that they say you can sub whey for BCAA's if necessary, but it seems like a descent amount of calories for fasting. Also, I have always been told that protein and carbs are essential immediately after your workout. Will BCAA's an hour post workout really have the same effect?Originally Posted by EasyEJL
05-31-2012, 10:24 PM
05-31-2012, 10:33 PM
I always questioned it due to the effect of insulin spikes on GH post workout. I guess the f&$kers selling supplements are all in it together. Lots of BS out there on that topic.
06-01-2012, 09:03 AM
06-01-2012, 09:38 AM
06-01-2012, 09:39 AM
06-01-2012, 09:53 AM
06-01-2012, 10:46 AM
What about ALCAR w/ the Yohimbine Hcl / BCAA combo? any additional benefit if taken PreW?
06-01-2012, 10:48 AM
06-01-2012, 10:59 AM
06-02-2012, 10:52 AM
06-02-2012, 02:34 PM
06-03-2012, 07:03 PM
So what's more important when training fasted- preworkout nutrition or post workout nutrition? The reason I ask is because I prefer to train on empty with only black coffee and then immediately post workout I slam a shake with whey, milk, banana , pb and cinnamon. Am a playing with fire when it comes to gains or muscle loss. Just not big on bcaa ( not for any particular reason)
06-04-2012, 05:02 AM
06-04-2012, 09:39 AM
New Dexaprine + Compete= Fasted Boy's dream. I have been training fasted for over a year now and those two supplements are going to be in my arsenal for a while now. When in doubt, however, Black coffee & some BCAA's never let anyone down.
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06-04-2012, 11:15 PM
06-05-2012, 03:36 AM
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06-05-2012, 07:08 AM
06-05-2012, 07:22 AM
My thoughts exactlyOriginally Posted by EasyEJL
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