30 days on Anabeta and nothing 23 days on Erase and also nothing

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  1. Unhappy 30 days on Anabeta and nothing 23 days on Erase and also nothing


    Today was day 30 on my Anabeta cycle of one jar and it was like I was taking empty
    capsules. I am on a clean bulk diet so I figured Anabeta would work great for me since
    my calories would not be restricted and from some of the reviews that I read everyone
    was mentioning how their appetite went up and they felt as if the food they were eating
    was being processed better by their bodies because of the Anabeta but unfortunately I
    did not experience any of this. I dosed 4 caps a day 1 with breakfast (bowl of oatmeal,
    piece of fruit, 6 eggs, 1/4 lb of lean steak, slice of whole grain toast) cap 2 with my
    early afternoon shake (50 grams of carbs from oats and 40 grams of protein) cap 3 with
    lunch (6 ounces of chicken, 1 cup of brown rice, vegetables or legumes) cap 4 with dinner
    (4 ounces of chicken or fish, large salad, 8 ounces of cottage cheese) and I also had 2 more
    meals during the day but no Anabeta with it so I was having 6 meals a day and dosing Anabeta
    with 4 of them and I just didn't feel or see any results from the Anabeta.

    Now to the Erase which after 23 days I am not seeing or feeling anything from it except that it
    has pretty much killed my libido from the very first week of taking it. Before I started the Anabeta
    or the Erase I was using a pure Tongkat Ali 100:1 root extract which I was planning on running for
    exactly 6 weeks and the TKA effects were felt the very first week (super libido, great erections and
    by the end of week 3 much deeper sleep) I couldn't ask for anything better until week 5 on the TKA
    when I added the Erase and it just completely Erased my libido. I finished my 6 week TKA cycle and
    I have continued with the Erase but as I mentioned earlier it hasn't done anything positive for me.
    This was the first time that I tried supplements from PES and neither worked for me and when it
    comes to anti estrogen supplements I will be sticking with Triazole which worked great for me last
    summer and I will be using it again in late July and August. What sucks is that I still have an unopened
    jar of Erase and I wish I could exchange for a jar of Triazole but I purchased it in January from Nutraplanet
    during the Erase/ Endosurge combo sale. So I guess I am stuck with it and hopefully when I run the 2 jars
    of Endosurge in the fall they work for me and not turn out to be duds like the 2 PES supplements that I tried.
    The Anabeta, and Erase might work for some people on this forum but they didn't do anything for me.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by totalpackage View Post
    Today was day 30 on my Anabeta cycle of one jar and it was like I was taking empty
    capsules. I am on a clean bulk diet so I figured Anabeta would work great for me since
    my calories would not be restricted and from some of the reviews that I read everyone
    was mentioning how their appetite went up and they felt as if the food they were eating
    was being processed better by their bodies because of the Anabeta but unfortunately I
    did not experience any of this. I dosed 4 caps a day 1 with breakfast (bowl of oatmeal,
    piece of fruit, 6 eggs, 1/4 lb of lean steak, slice of whole grain toast) cap 2 with my
    early afternoon shake (50 grams of carbs from oats and 40 grams of protein) cap 3 with
    lunch (6 ounces of chicken, 1 cup of brown rice, vegetables or legumes) cap 4 with dinner
    (4 ounces of chicken or fish, large salad, 8 ounces of cottage cheese) and I also had 2 more
    meals during the day but no Anabeta with it so I was having 6 meals a day and dosing Anabeta
    with 4 of them and I just didn't feel or see any results from the Anabeta.

    Now to the Erase which after 23 days I am not seeing or feeling anything from it except that it
    has pretty much killed my libido from the very first week of taking it. Before I started the Anabeta
    or the Erase I was using a pure Tongkat Ali 100:1 root extract which I was planning on running for
    exactly 6 weeks and the TKA effects were felt the very first week (super libido, great erections and
    by the end of week 3 much deeper sleep) I couldn't ask for anything better until week 5 on the TKA
    when I added the Erase and it just completely Erased my libido. I finished my 6 week TKA cycle and
    I have continued with the Erase but as I mentioned earlier it hasn't done anything positive for me.
    This was the first time that I tried supplements from PES and neither worked for me and when it
    comes to anti estrogen supplements I will be sticking with Triazole which worked great for me last
    summer and I will be using it again in late July and August. What sucks is that I still have an unopened
    jar of Erase and I wish I could exchange for a jar of Triazole but I purchased it in January from Nutraplanet
    during the Erase/ Endosurge combo sale. So I guess I am stuck with it and hopefully when I run the 2 jars
    of Endosurge in the fall they work for me and not turn out to be duds like the 2 PES supplements that I tried.
    The Anabeta, and Erase might work for some people on this forum but they didn't do anything for me.
    As far as the Anabeta, you could be a non responder. But what was your training like, did you keep a log during the cycle? What was your goal going into the stack? A Erase/Anabeta stack is extreamly versitile, it can really be used effectively for anything.
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  3. what were you expecting from it? did you take progress pictures? stepping on the scale weekly doesnt always tell everything. you can decrease in fat and gain some muscle and still weigh the same. btw, ill take your Erase
    BPS Representative

  4. They simply may not work for you. My advice with Erase is to try 4 caps first thing in the AM on an empty stomach, 45 minutes before eating.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    They simply may not work for you. My advice with Erase is to try 4 caps first thing in the AM on an empty stomach, 45 minutes before eating.
    This is your advice for ERASE? Taking 4 caps at once would surely cause dry joints with ERASE. 3 Per day, spaced out, is the recommended dosage and what I would recommend.

    Perhaps you were talking about AnaBeta?
    Romans 8:38-39

    Save sorrow for the souls in doubt
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Natestreo

    This is your advice for ERASE? Taking 4 caps at once would surely cause dry joints with ERASE. 3 Per day, spaced out, is the recommended dosage and what I would recommend.

    Perhaps you were talking about AnaBeta?
    He was talking about Erase.
    I've done this before. It works.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Natestreo View Post
    This is your advice for ERASE? Taking 4 caps at once would surely cause dry joints with ERASE. 3 Per day, spaced out, is the recommended dosage and what I would recommend.

    Perhaps you were talking about AnaBeta?
    I dont think it would be that bad if he is talking about Erase considering Erase Pro has the equivilent dosing of the ingredient in 3 Erase as in 1 Erase Pro and its to be taken in the morning 100mg as compared to 75mg prob wouldnt be a huge difference.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Natestreo View Post
    This is your advice for ERASE? Taking 4 caps at once would surely cause dry joints with ERASE. 3 Per day, spaced out, is the recommended dosage and what I would recommend.

    Perhaps you were talking about AnaBeta?
    That is indeed my advice for Erase, you can take it or leave it. Since all we have are in vitro studies, pharmacology dictates a dose of 75-100mg, and with OP not responding, 100mg seems best for him.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Natestreo

    This is your advice for ERASE? Taking 4 caps at once would surely cause dry joints with ERASE. 3 Per day, spaced out, is the recommended dosage and what I would recommend.

    Perhaps you were talking about AnaBeta?
    I know one of the reps said he uses 6 caps a day. (of erase). Ive used erase plus exemestane (3 caps, and 25mg respectively) and noticed nothing of dry joints though sometimes 3 caps is too much. Depends on your body, training, and diet.
    RecoverBro ELITE

  10. Makes more sense once I consider the new Erase Pro dosing. I hadn't ever heard of anyone taking 4 of the original at once. Perhaps that is what it would take for the OP!

    Thanks for correcting me.
    Romans 8:38-39

    Save sorrow for the souls in doubt

  11. I've done 5 and 6 Erase per day for extended periods of time with no problems. Everybody is different.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by totalpackage View Post
    Today was day 30 on my Anabeta cycle of one jar and it was like I was taking empty
    capsules. I am on a clean bulk diet so I figured Anabeta would work great for me since
    my calories would not be restricted and from some of the reviews that I read everyone
    was mentioning how their appetite went up and they felt as if the food they were eating
    was being processed better by their bodies because of the Anabeta but unfortunately I
    did not experience any of this. I dosed 4 caps a day 1 with breakfast (bowl of oatmeal,
    piece of fruit, 6 eggs, 1/4 lb of lean steak, slice of whole grain toast) cap 2 with my
    early afternoon shake (50 grams of carbs from oats and 40 grams of protein) cap 3 with
    lunch (6 ounces of chicken, 1 cup of brown rice, vegetables or legumes) cap 4 with dinner
    (4 ounces of chicken or fish, large salad, 8 ounces of cottage cheese) and I also had 2 more
    meals during the day but no Anabeta with it so I was having 6 meals a day and dosing Anabeta
    with 4 of them and I just didn't feel or see any results from the Anabeta.

    Now to the Erase which after 23 days I am not seeing or feeling anything from it except that it
    has pretty much killed my libido from the very first week of taking it. Before I started the Anabeta
    or the Erase I was using a pure Tongkat Ali 100:1 root extract which I was planning on running for
    exactly 6 weeks and the TKA effects were felt the very first week (super libido, great erections and
    by the end of week 3 much deeper sleep) I couldn't ask for anything better until week 5 on the TKA
    when I added the Erase and it just completely Erased my libido. I finished my 6 week TKA cycle and
    I have continued with the Erase but as I mentioned earlier it hasn't done anything positive for me.
    This was the first time that I tried supplements from PES and neither worked for me and when it
    comes to anti estrogen supplements I will be sticking with Triazole which worked great for me last
    summer and I will be using it again in late July and August. What sucks is that I still have an unopened
    jar of Erase and I wish I could exchange for a jar of Triazole but I purchased it in January from Nutraplanet
    during the Erase/ Endosurge combo sale. So I guess I am stuck with it and hopefully when I run the 2 jars
    of Endosurge in the fall they work for me and not turn out to be duds like the 2 PES supplements that I tried.
    The Anabeta, and Erase might work for some people on this forum but they didn't do anything for me.
    wow, you training to write a book? cliffs cause im not gonna read all that shiit.

    now, first thing's first. this should be in the sup review section, cause your whining about a product you used and didn't like.

    second, not sure what you were expecting, you aren't using steroids. an ai and a natural muscle enhancer or w/e anabeta is.

    fcuking seriously.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Natestreo View Post
    This is your advice for ERASE? Taking 4 caps at once would surely cause dry joints with ERASE. 3 Per day, spaced out, is the recommended dosage and what I would recommend.

    Perhaps you were talking about AnaBeta?
    really? it's what you recomend? why is that? please, explain to me the break down of oral availability of natural metabolites of 7-keto-dhea. and how did you come to this recomendation? by reading whats on the bottle? cause that is always accurate when dealing with hormonal products.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    He was talking about Erase.
    I've done this before. It works.
    Same I got dried out faster and noticed better mood throughout the day , I never had dry joints for 3 caps straight up in the AM and for 5 days I did 4 caps AM before training and fasted (Lean Gains) , and I got so dried out it was freaky , good freaky though!
    >SNS-Glycophase<
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep

  15. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    really? it's what you recomend? why is that? please, explain to me the break down of oral availability of natural metabolites of 7-keto-dhea. and how did you come to this recomendation? by reading whats on the bottle? cause that is always accurate when dealing with hormonal products.
    My recommendations come from my personal usage and experience with a product. I wouldn't recommend a dosage for a product that I haven't personally used.

    You should consider providing something useful to the thread rather than only being condescending towards other peoples posts, not limited to mine. Questions get asked, feedback is given, more questions are asked and more feedback is given. That's how people learn and help each other. Something to consider. All I will have to say about this, too.
    Romans 8:38-39

    Save sorrow for the souls in doubt

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Same I got dried out faster and noticed better mood throughout the day , I never had dry joints for 3 caps straight up in the AM and for 5 days I did 4 caps AM before training and fasted (Lean Gains) , and I got so dried out it was freaky , good freaky though!
    I got dry joints using Erase at 3 per day. Took two at once one time and had really bad dry joints, haha. This is why I was shocked to see the recommendation for 4xErase at once.

    I guess it goes to show how everyone is different in how they respond to a product. I should have thought about it a little longer before I posted, thinking back it probably isn't that big of a deal. Haha
    Romans 8:38-39

    Save sorrow for the souls in doubt

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Natestreo View Post
    I got dry joints using Erase at 3 per day. Took two at once one time and had really bad dry joints, haha. This is why I was shocked to see the recommendation for 4xErase at once.

    I guess it goes to show how everyone is different in how they respond to a product. I should have thought about it a little longer before I posted, thinking back it probably isn't that big of a deal. Haha
    Its just all about how you react , I have never suffered from dry joints at all :/ , just once , and curiously it was not even ON erase , and if you think about it Erase Pro has 75mg hence 3 erases together , and its 1 cap a day , half life is good enough for that , so 4 is not really over stretching it that much, its just 100mg of the main compound. But yeah Erase dries you out none the less hahaha, its a winning product and something I plan on stapling for cuts from now on!
    >SNS-Glycophase<
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Natestreo View Post
    My recommendations come from my personal usage and experience with a product. I wouldn't recommend a dosage for a product that I haven't personally used.

    You should consider providing something useful to the thread rather than only being condescending towards other peoples posts, not limited to mine. Questions get asked, feedback is given, more questions are asked and more feedback is given. That's how people learn and help each other. Something to consider. All I will have to say about this, too.
    ^^^^^ Very true, its a community not a competition.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Natestreo

    My recommendations come from my personal usage and experience with a product. I wouldn't recommend a dosage for a product that I haven't personally used.

    You should consider providing something useful to the thread rather than only being condescending towards other peoples posts, not limited to mine. Questions get asked, feedback is given, more questions are asked and more feedback is given. That's how people learn and help each other. Something to consider. All I will have to say about this, too.
    Maybe I took it the wrong way but it seemed like your original statement towards Coop's recommendation was an attack. He has given a lot of sound advice on here and it looked like you were doubting him.
    And 4 Anabeta in one serving...on an empty stomach...phew....I've never attempted that but I bet your tongue would end up dried to the roof of your mouth pretty quickly lol.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    really? it's what you recomend? why is that? please, explain to me the break down of oral availability of natural metabolites of 7-keto-dhea. and how did you come to this recomendation? by reading whats on the bottle? cause that is always accurate when dealing with hormonal products.
    I would never exceed 50 mg h-drol for more than 30 days. Ever.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid

    I would never exceed 50 mg h-drol for more than 30 days. Ever.
    Well duh. And if the nolva says not for human consumption....just don't swallow it!
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  22. I have tried taking all 3 caps of erase in the AM and I feel more nipple area sensitivity at night compared to spacing the 3 caps throughout the day (this was during a pct with other products..)

    Empty stomach makes erase more bioavailable? I haven't paid much attention to meals with it in the past...maybe I should?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by totalpackage View Post
    Today was day 30 on my Anabeta cycle of one jar and it was like I was taking empty
    capsules. I am on a clean bulk diet so I figured Anabeta would work great for me since
    my calories would not be restricted and from some of the reviews that I read everyone
    was mentioning how their appetite went up and they felt as if the food they were eating
    was being processed better by their bodies because of the Anabeta but unfortunately I
    did not experience any of this. I dosed 4 caps a day 1 with breakfast (bowl of oatmeal,
    piece of fruit, 6 eggs, 1/4 lb of lean steak, slice of whole grain toast) cap 2 with my
    early afternoon shake (50 grams of carbs from oats and 40 grams of protein) cap 3 with
    lunch (6 ounces of chicken, 1 cup of brown rice, vegetables or legumes) cap 4 with dinner
    (4 ounces of chicken or fish, large salad, 8 ounces of cottage cheese) and I also had 2 more
    meals during the day but no Anabeta with it so I was having 6 meals a day and dosing Anabeta
    with 4 of them and I just didn't feel or see any results from the Anabeta.

    Now to the Erase which after 23 days I am not seeing or feeling anything from it except that it
    has pretty much killed my libido from the very first week of taking it. Before I started the Anabeta
    or the Erase I was using a pure Tongkat Ali 100:1 root extract which I was planning on running for
    exactly 6 weeks and the TKA effects were felt the very first week (super libido, great erections and
    by the end of week 3 much deeper sleep) I couldn't ask for anything better until week 5 on the TKA
    when I added the Erase and it just completely Erased my libido. I finished my 6 week TKA cycle and
    I have continued with the Erase but as I mentioned earlier it hasn't done anything positive for me.
    This was the first time that I tried supplements from PES and neither worked for me and when it
    comes to anti estrogen supplements I will be sticking with Triazole which worked great for me last
    summer and I will be using it again in late July and August. What sucks is that I still have an unopened
    jar of Erase and I wish I could exchange for a jar of Triazole but I purchased it in January from Nutraplanet
    during the Erase/ Endosurge combo sale. So I guess I am stuck with it and hopefully when I run the 2 jars
    of Endosurge in the fall they work for me and not turn out to be duds like the 2 PES supplements that I tried.
    The Anabeta, and Erase might work for some people on this forum but they didn't do anything for me.
    We are sorry that you did not respond to these supplements.

    They get fantastic feedback across the board but once in a while you come across someone who doesn't get on with them which appears to be you.

    Calling the products 'dud' is perhaps a little unfair as it is rare that we have someone reporting negative feedback to both whereas if we quoted all of the positive feedback it would be very extensive. There is a thread on here where in 2 pages of replies 10 people reported Erase or AnaBeta to be one of their favourite ever products.

    It is down to natural chemistry, some work for one person but not for another. One thing they definitely aren't are dud products.

    Once again I am sorry you are disappointed with them.

    Ben
    PEScience Representative
    http://pescience.com/insider
    http://selectprotein.com

  24. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc

    We are sorry that you did not respond to these supplements.

    They get fantastic feedback across the board but once in a while you come across someone who doesn't get on with them which appears to be you.

    Calling the products 'dud' is perhaps a little unfair as it is rare that we have someone reporting negative feedback to both whereas if we quoted all of the positive feedback it would be very extensive. There is a thread on here where in 2 pages of replies 10 people reported Erase or AnaBeta to be one of their favourite ever products.

    It is down to natural chemistry, some work for one person but not for another. One thing they definitely aren't are dud products.

    Once again I am sorry you are disappointed with them.

    Ben
    Good response by a good rep...
    PEScience Representative
    http://pescience.com/insider http://facebook.com/pescience

  25. Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift

    Good response by a good rep...
    Is it true that if you can handle it in the back of your throat you can't even taste it going down?
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  26. ^^^ haha. As for erase and TK, could it be your test levels were extremely high causing decrease in libido? Did u try running erase by itself?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Well duh. And if the nolva says not for human consumption....just don't swallow it!
    Ahh crap am I going to die????
    "Strive to seize the initiative in all things"

  28. Perhaps have your blood work done and try another round. This way you will have baseline values. Also, keeping a log of weights, body weight, body fat, etc will certainly help. I'm starting my third week of EP along with DAA and am having a great time with it. Take weekly pictures, too as they will show progression. Last, and this is probably the most significant, take a good hard look at your diet. I revamped mine to coincide with this cycle (ate more calories) and noticed significant gains in lean mass. I plan on doing this for 8weeks as this seems to be the sweet spot for most people using this cycle. Good luck!

  29. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM

    Maybe I took it the wrong way but it seemed like your original statement towards Coop's recommendation was an attack. He has given a lot of sound advice on here and it looked like you were doubting him.
    And 4 Anabeta in one serving...on an empty stomach...phew....I've never attempted that but I bet your tongue would end up dried to the roof of your mouth pretty quickly lol.
    Coop is a great guy! Very knowledgeable and respectable on the forums. But I definitely doubted his statement at first. Wasn't an attack at coop, though. Hope this makes sense. I don't want him to think I was attacking him, either.
    Romans 8:38-39

    Save sorrow for the souls in doubt

  30. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM

    Well duh. And if the nolva says not for human consumption....just don't swallow it!
    Lol
    Romans 8:38-39

    Save sorrow for the souls in doubt
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