What is the Best Test Booster Supplement that is not a Prohormone?
- 05-09-2012, 12:07 PM
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05-09-2012, 01:10 PM
Check out Intimidate OP. The reviews are straight out ridiculous, and people are getting significant gains without having to worry about PCT or any toxicity.
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05-09-2012, 01:26 PM
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It's hard to make a call. Aleksandar recommends DAA and I second that.
If you are of a proper age, you want a good Natty Cycle to would go with.
Erase Pro. An Anti-Aromatase/Anti-Estrogen. When you supress estrogen you lean up and tighten. Erase Pro also contains a site inhibitor to stop conversion at the site along with an ingredient to help increase testosterone.
Anabeta will help you abosrob more nutrient you are consuming and most users report an increase in hunger. This will help increase anabolism with a Lean and Clean diet consisting of mainly whole foods. IMO it shines when used with high carbs and high protein diets. The new Anabeta Elite contains added Forskolin and 5-Androsten-3B7B-diol-17-one, which both have been proven to increase testosterone.
Finally adding DAA. D-Aspartic-Acid is an amino acid naturally occuring in several locations in the body, one being the testes. When 3g is taken everyday, anytime throughout the day, testosterone has shown to increase on average 42%.
I recommend SNS DAA caps, D-Pol(which I will be logging soon), or even Intimidate which is a NMDA(logging as well)
If you want to read results from this Stack check out my log I just finished. Go to my profile and click on latest started threads and you should see it in there!
05-09-2012, 01:29 PM
id recommend bulbine natalensis in the form of prolensis. the dosage has to be perfect, as its possible to take too much and i think prolensis did a good job figuring that out. a number of brands use prolensis in their product; to date, its uncertain if these brands are using the maximal amount of prolensis that prolensis inc. would recommend; presumably they are. ive tried phytoserms, ergotest, and ultra male rx. iforce makes one also, called tropinol, which looks legit though i havent tried it, given the caffeine content; the advantage of the ultramale rx and the tropinol is that they both added another powerful herbal test booster as well
these product will not cause hypogonad issues or estrogen problems; i didnt lose any hair taking prolensis, though i couldnt rule that one out for everyone
05-09-2012, 01:36 PM
05-09-2012, 02:18 PM
lyeah, its amazing; people dont know about either; i mean, look at all the buzz about testofen, which is like an 80% increase; thats small fries when you look at the 247% increase from prolensis. i shipped a bottle of tropinol to my old man a few days ago; im confident that at 65 he can have the test levels of someone in high school. just havent found a natural test booster that compares. the tests they did on rats was a 3 month cycle that reported no adverse effects
05-09-2012, 02:20 PM
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05-09-2012, 02:44 PM
Hehe admit it , sounds like a sick stack to cover all your bases 2 super test boosters , a kick ass AI and a sweet anabolic , throw in super cissus though for joints and good old staples , a clean nutrition and I could see myself packing 7-8lbs of LBM in 8 weeks ^^!!! Well I at least do hope so thats my stack for September xD
>SNS-Glycophase<Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
05-09-2012, 02:45 PM
Standard company recommended testosterone booster
But in all honesty, DAA is great. Look at anything with 3,4 divan, fenugreek, fadogia, etc (and not just that, but check the amount and extract percentages).
05-09-2012, 03:18 PM
i couldnt recommend erase pro personally. it is possible to raise test so high naturally that it shuts off, and anti aromate stuff can get you there; i remember chuck deisal had a log about his deisal test and people were writing in saying how their libido plummated; he anwered and said the recommended dose was too high for them and they simply need to cut back; i was kind of appauled that people following the bottle were shutting their hormones down and the only word about was buried somewhere in anabolic minds forum. when you consider that 98% of our test is bound up, there is hugh potential to skyrocket levels. On that note, i dont recommend things that block estrogen either; estrogen creates a water that enables nutrients to travel to hard to reach places, like the joints; i knew a guy who raved about arimatest, i also couldnt help but notice he had a mean shoulder injuy; also, a guy who works at the vitamin shoppe was telling me people came in who could hear their joints cracking on that stuff.
with regards to adding things to increase test to potent test boosters like the ones in tropinol, i would say listen to your libido on that one; if its dropping youve gone to far; that said, ive only heard of that happening in natural boosters when there were things present to free bound testosterone. i dont know if you can just add all the test boosters you could think of and get higher test levels.
i wouldnt consider anabeta in the test booster category; ive never heard any numbers concerning the "indirect" test boost that results from it; technically, a person could make the claim that a piece of bread indirectly boosts test and they wouldnt be lying; from the little i know about anbeta, it seems to be more of a body recomposition agent resulting from an insulin or glu type of process. perhaps pes meant that improved nutrient absorption would result in more nutrients absorbed to build test? i used the stuff for two weeks and didnt notice anything; i realize i probably didnt give it a fair shake; honestly i would have if there was one of those timelines that said "look for results at week 1, then more at week 2" ect like no2 and prime did, but didnt see anything, so i got bored with it. of course, i may have gotten bored with prime and i would have missed out. anyway, i personally wouldnt think anabeta would hurt the stack in any way.
i do think it would be interesting to combine prolensis + testofen + that herb in tropinol (is it fadogia?) but i havent been viewing test boosters as an agent to get hugh with; i mean, consider the fact that an over the counter prohormone like androhard puts up a 50x increase in dhea, we aint even gonna get there with however many herbs we bunch together; then the world of steroids these guys who do get big are taking their test with agents to make sure it remains free test that doesnt convert to estrogen and the end amount of active test is astronomically higher; if a bodybuilder took roids and increased his test just by 100% , it would be up to 50x more potent than a natural/ herbal 100% increase with all the stuff taken to keep that test free. of course they would be increasing levels way past 100%, so as you can see herbal test doesnt come close.
i would conclude saying i would use prolensis as a means to bring the body to optimal test output and to maintain peak levels like those from high school at any point in your life. that basically translates into more libido. i think maybe i added 5lbs on my sets all around taking it. of course, the increase in libido is all youde ever want; prolensis alone will turn you into a sex slave. if someone has tried that alone and then stacked it with other test boosters and this resulted in some significant improvement somewhere , id love to hear about it
05-09-2012, 03:42 PM
Erase has had reports of joint discomfort so people take it EOD and same with Erase Pro. And it is some cases not every person who takes it experiences it.
Intimidate is a great product as well and supported by many here.
IMO Celorza's planned stack is set for success and if he logs it I'm on board.
05-09-2012, 03:44 PM
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>SNS-Glycophase<Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
05-09-2012, 03:53 PM
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05-09-2012, 03:58 PM
i have used several over the years.
Animal M Stak - liked this product alot and got good gains. Has a stim pill included which really gives your workouts a big push. My pals said they noticed a big change to my body when taking this.
I would suggest however, Taurotest. It looks bad ass imo. Its like it has everything rolled into 1. Try it and let me know, as i will about the Decasarm ;-)
05-09-2012, 03:59 PM
Agreed. This is my next stack starting in a week or soOriginally Posted by andrew732
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05-09-2012, 04:07 PM
i am the science, and i would like to site my junk which was adversely affected by taking an anti aromatase product; for the record i have never taken erase pro. im sorry i didnt conduct a double blind study on that one, but i wanted my mojo back.
with regards to the diesal test forum on this site, i dont recall the exact mechanism of the shutdown, only that diesal said it was from the longjack and how it was producing too much test (possibly free test, i dont remember). the point was that its possible to go to far even with natural supplements, though you are right this could have nothing to do with negative feedback reasons; you want concretes on that? truth is, nobody knows why you cant exceed the dosage on prolensis and just make more test; if you do, levels drop. thats what happened to anthony roberts, they guy who did bloodworks on it before distributing the stuff. negative feedback for him? i dont know, but if you were interested in the truth all you would have to do is type bulbine natalensis in a search engine and his work will come up; otherwise, i will assume the you have interpreted my statments as a threat to the product you represent and yooure just trying to troll my post
i dont think there is anything illegitimate about someone posting their experiences, and im not the only one so posting when it comes to complications from things that liberate free test for example; ive encountered a number of explainations online that you and anyone else could locate and im just offereing pieces to the puzzle because the double blind studies arent on their way dude.
05-09-2012, 04:49 PM
05-09-2012, 04:54 PM
OP look into Vidatest or Bioforge v3 (same ingredients). Ran Vidatest for 2 months and I felt great and healthy each day and wanted to get into the gym as well.
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