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    Topical fatloss - SAT and VAT


    Any of the topicals target both? Ive got these rear-love handles/thicker skin that I have no clue which type of fat it is back there

    Also: Are any of these effective while NOT making you feel like you are on FIRE. I think it weas eviscerate (?) that made it burn so bad it hurt liek a mofo
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    Abliderate Advanced targeted both for me
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    Abliderate Advanced plus Eviscerate Smolder does a sweet deal to that...and the smolder doesn't burn AT ALL. Well not to me at least.
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    are the topical fat loss products more effective then pill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregg1494 View Post
    are the topical fat loss products more effective then pill?
    It depends on the ingredient and systemic vs topical effects and oral vs transdermal bioavailability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregg1494 View Post
    are the topical fat loss products more effective then pill?
    Depends , they are more to give the final touches , to get rid of that tiny last bit , but pills do have a nice and more all-round effect with longer lifetimes in their compounds too. Different goals , but for love handles...I would say topicals are better , unless u make a kick ass EC stack , throw in yohimbe and fasted cardio , nothing survives that haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    It depends on the ingredient and systemic vs topical effects and oral vs transdermal bioavailability.
    lets say Abliderate Advanced vs oxyelite pro
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    It depends on the ingredient and systemic vs topical effects and oral vs transdermal bioavailability.
    This is true too , for example 6-oxo is not really awesome or good at oral introduction to the body , but make it a transdermal and boom , nice AI...Also the same case with Ursobolic Acid , has tiny bioability orally and it has shown higher bioavility in the transdermal version , the UR spray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregg1494 View Post
    lets say Abliderate Advanced vs oxyelite pro
    Depends , BF % wise and the area you want to tackle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregg1494 View Post
    lets say Abliderate Advanced vs oxyelite pro
    Oxyelite Pro for energy and appetite suppression, Abliderate Advanced for lipolysis and prevention of fat accumulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Oxyelite Pro for energy and appetite suppression, Abliderate Advanced for lipolysis and prevention of fat accumulation.
    Sounds like a winner to me.
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    Thanks all

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Abliderate Advanced targeted both for me
    Coop---any burn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Thanks all



    Coop---any burn?
    No burn. I actually found it more​ effective for SAT than eviscerate
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    Agree, AA doesn't burn one bit. I'm absolutely loving it so far, with about half the bottle down.
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    Do these actually make u lose weight all around or just targeted fat? Because I don't want to lose weight. But I would like to slim down stomach some places
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    It depends on the ingredient and systemic vs topical effects and oral vs transdermal bioavailability.
    Fancy way of saying "yes and no"

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    Thanks

    I thought about adding clen. Worth it? I am not wanting it to go system.

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    No burn. I actually found it more​ effective for SAT than eviscerate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Thanks

    I thought about adding clen. Worth it? I am not wanting it to go system.
    You can read up on topicals with clen in the thread clenviscerate, god of fat loss. As far as I know Abliderate Advanced and clen would be a good mix, but I know evidence would be limited as Advanced hasn't been out long. You may want to ask Dsade for specifics.
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    OP the fat on your lower side/back is SAT and I would opt for Eviscerate.
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    No burn. I actually found it more​ effective for SAT than eviscerate
    Interesting, what body fat percentage were you using both at? While its primarily targeted at VAT they're plenty of ingredients in there that would impact SAT. I liked AA at a higher percentage but Eviscerate is money now that I'm down around 10.
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    Thanks

    I thought about adding clen. Worth it? I am not wanting it to go system.
    Worth giving it a go and I believe they're people who have done logs with the combo. You have to keep in mind however to my knowledge it will enter the system regardless via blood flow through various tissues.

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    I still have a decent amount of Napalm and Lipoderm U that I use. IIRC, Eviscerate is based off of Napalm's formula and contains many of the same ingredients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I still have a decent amount of Napalm and Lipoderm U that I use. IIRC, Eviscerate is based off of Napalm's formula and contains many of the same ingredients.
    Eviscerate contains Napalm, so it has everything that Napalm has plus a whole bunch more. It is the ultimate formula, if you can take the heat. If you can't take the HEAT, Smolder or the upcoming Burn-free is the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Eviscerate contains Napalm, so it has everything that Napalm has plus a whole bunch more. It is the ultimate formula, if you can take the heat. If you can't take the HEAT, Smolder or the upcoming Burn-free is the way to go.
    I'll get around to Eviscerate eventually. I had over a dozen bottles of Napalm from when I was with Avant and have used only half of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I'll get around to Eviscerate eventually. I had over a dozen bottles of Napalm from when I was with Avant and have used only half of them.
    As excellent as the Napalm formula is, you will be totally blown away by Eviscerate. I can always make you a sample.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    As excellent as the Napalm formula is, you will be totally blown away by Eviscerate. I can always make you a sample.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You still have my addy ?
    Yep...and I will probably include a few servings of the new preworkout too....you know, to save shipping.
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    Do all of these (NaPalm, Eviscerate, Abliterate Advanced) all cause acute local water retention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Yep...and I will probably include a few servings of the new preworkout too....you know, to save shipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Do all of these (NaPalm, Eviscerate, Abliterate Advanced) all cause acute local water retention.
    Caffeine is commonly included to reduce water retention from Y.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You still have my addy ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    AA: Isopropyl alcohol, benzyl alcohol, octyl salicylate, triglyceride complex, water, d-limonene, Omega 3 Complex, 3-acetyl-7-oxo-DHEA, Green Coffee Bean Extract (50% Chlorogenic acid) Resveratrol, carbomer, Nobiletin.


    Coffee Bean count? PS: There is no "Y" (Yohimbe ? ) in this stuff
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    That is why I said commonly. Y-HCl is used in Napalm, Eviscerate, etc. and whenever Y-HCl is included, caffeine is added to combat the water retention.
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    How are everyone's experiences with Napalm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    How are everyone's experiences with Napalm?
    Love it, especially with some clen added to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Love it, especially with some clen added to it.
    Good to hear. I won't be using it with any ancillaries, but how would you recommend using it? I was thinking once a day post-shower/exfoliation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Love it, especially with some clen added to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Good to hear. I won't be using it with any ancillaries, but how would you recommend using it? I was thinking once a day post-shower/exfoliation.
    2x/day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    How are everyone's experiences with Napalm?
    I enjoyed Napalm, but it's next to impossible to find now, though I think one site still has it or special orders it or something. Anyways, it's a little bit of a moot point if you can handle eviscerate as eviscerate has everything Napalm has (same carrier same formula) and then added goodies.
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    Pre-Cardio or weight training is surely superior?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Good to hear. I won't be using it with any ancillaries, but how would you recommend using it? I was thinking once a day post-shower/exfoliation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Pre-Cardio or weight training is surely superior?
    I don't think it matters. The main things are to make sure that the skin is clean/exfoliated and you wait a few hours after application before training.
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