Erase + NOW DOPA Mucuna?
- 05-04-2012, 11:26 AM
Erase + NOW DOPA Mucuna?
Looking to lean out for the summer and am planning to run Erase at 2 caps per day for 6 weeks. I cannot do more than 2 caps per day due to dry joints and joint pain. This will be my third time using Erase and love the product. I am also looking to use a Mucuna product to go with it. Since I have no experience with Mucuna I am planning on running NOW DOPA Mucuna to try and see how I respond to it first. The product is standardized for 15% L-DOPA and each cap is 400mg so that should yield 60mg of L-DOPA per cap. I wanted to know how much actives from L-DOPA I should be getting daily in order to fully benefit from the use of this product? Additionally what is the best doing protocol for Mucuna products? I also looked at Endosurge and will most likely try that next time with erase, but for now I would like to see how I respond to the NOW product. Also is there any harm in adding 40% icariin to this stack? Or would the use of both icariin and Erase at the same time lower cortisol too much?
- 05-04-2012, 12:12 PM
You'll notice a difference between standard 15% L-dopa and the concentrations in Endo. It affects people differently, so that could be a good way to start, but you can't compare the two.
- 05-04-2012, 12:13 PM
05-04-2012, 06:21 PM
I know that Endorush and NOW DOPA Mucuna 15% are 2 different products and I will use Endorush somewhere down the road. But first I want to see what a standalone Mucuna product feels like first so that I can assess its general effectiveness and get an idea of what to expect as well as guage my reaction/tolerance to any possible side effects. Can anyone provide a dosing protocol for the NOW product?
05-04-2012, 06:29 PM
Use as directed.
05-04-2012, 06:42 PM
If used as directed that is only 120mg of active L-DOPA per day. Is that enough to see any sort of benefit?
05-04-2012, 06:48 PM
I only say that because it is a powerful herb that affects everyone differently. I would start there and adjust as needed. When I was taking Macuna years before I found Endosurge, I took 3 caps at 300mg 15% L-dopa spaced throughout the day.
05-04-2012, 06:53 PM
If basing in on the amount of actives in Endosurge, then 400mg-500mg of actives per day seems to be the range to hit. That would translate to 6-8 caps of NOW Dopa Mucuna daily. Maybe 2-3 caps spread out over 2-3times daily with the last serving before bed?
05-05-2012, 12:44 PM
I would go with Endosurge and get the Nettle extract as well
05-05-2012, 01:57 PM
05-05-2012, 02:33 PM
1 carboxy by usp is by far the best dopa product.. i have used many
05-08-2012, 12:52 PM
Currently on my 4th day of 3 caps of Erase daily along with 6 caps of NOW DOPA Mucuna pre-bed on an empty stomach. I have been taking the DOPA Mucuna together with my usual serving of ZMA, 100mg 5-HTP, and 750mg GABA right before bed. I have noticed since I started taking the Mucuna that I feel like I am getting a deeper more restful sleep. The morning after my first day on Mucuna I was a little groggy and out of it, but have not had any problem since. I feel more refreshed when I wake up now and seem to have more energy and motivation throughout the day. I also feel much more calm and seem to be in a better mood overall. I might slowly raise the dose to 7 caps and then 8 to see if there will be any additional benefit.
As for the Erase, this is my third time running it and I know what to expect. It is helping me to dry out and harden up. I have noticed more vascularity and all my muscles are starting to feel tighter. The only difference this time is that I decided to give 3 caps daily another try and so far I have not felt any of the joint pain or stiffness I felt previously. The last 2 times I used Erase, I could only tolerate 2 caps per day and even then I was getting joint pain within the first 3 days. I will see how long I can stick with 3 caps daily this time, but I am hoping I will be able to tolerate it all the way through so that I can maximize the benefit I get from it.
Now that I have a general idea of what to expect with DOPA Mucuna, I will definitely be trying Endosurge in the near future and will most likely run it with Erase.
05-08-2012, 01:16 PM
05-12-2012, 08:06 PM
I know this is an old bump, but dopa is to be taken with meals?Originally Posted by kevinhy
05-13-2012, 02:35 AM
I've taken Now Dopa Mucuna as a stand alone probably one of my fav t boosters! I had a massive crash once I was off it though that's because I have low T, you will get better sleep, lower cortisol and tons more energy when on it
And I've taken a zillions t booster products and this was defo a diamond in the rough
05-20-2012, 01:33 AM
Been using the Now DOPA Mucuna now for over two weeks and I must say I have been getting some incredible sleep. I didn't really begin to feel anything positive until I bumped the dosage up to 5 caps pre-bed. At 6 caps, I fell asleep quite easily and got some wierd dreams and would wake up feeling very refreshed. The I tried 8 caps and I found that 8 caps ended up being too much to take all at once, and the few days I did 8, I had some very intense and vivid dreams and I woke up after only 6 hrs of sleep despite normally needing 8hrs before using the Mucuna. I backed it down to 7 caps pre bed I and now still get deep sleep, vivid dreams, and only need 6-7 hours sleep without the intense ramp up right before drifitng away to sleep as well as not feeling foggy when I wake up. I think for this particular product 6-7 caps pre-bed is the sweetspot for me. Used in conjuction with Erase I have dropped 2-3 pounds and have leaned out considerably over the last two weeks or so. This is definitely a good combo and makes the Erase + Endosurge combo a must do in the future.
06-28-2012, 10:47 AM
I know its an old thread but I wanted to get some advice from everybody on here bc you all have exp with this stack. I am starting daa/erase cycle for first time 8 weeks cycle-should I add l dopa in also? I dont know what it is actually for and trust me ive read up on it and ant find any difinitive answer on what the benefits of it are? All I can gather is it is helpful in bosting T levels and cutting from conversion to estrogen. Id appreciate a little clarity if someone has a little time. Thanks for the time boys!
06-28-2012, 10:57 AM
Also good for prolactin control.Originally Posted by kodyt21
06-29-2012, 12:39 AM
Good for deeper sleep as well. This was the most notable benefit for me.
06-29-2012, 11:08 AM
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07-02-2012, 07:37 AM
Ok,Great thank you for reply's. Im on day 6 DAA, just started Erase as well. I have gyno in my history so I am running 3 caps /day spread out throughout the day and I will now be throwing in a few caps of NOW L dopa at night time. Again thanks a bunch guy! all repped!
07-02-2012, 02:25 PM
07-02-2012, 03:16 PM
After I get my post up I will be PMing you with questions hah
07-02-2012, 03:17 PM
Hey Kev, How do I subscribe to the pes news feeds? I see the link but wont let me click on it.
07-02-2012, 03:41 PM
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