Help from Science and Research experts please.
- 04-25-2012, 10:58 PM
Help from Science and Research experts please.
Hello guys, I have almost completed week 6 of Erase/AT2/C20/OEP , well I'm pretty lean now...But I am lacking the mass, and I got another Cutting season scheduled to start around the Second week of June which I will log Perfectly including workouts , pics, dosages and everything, as to the contents of my cut, well they are a surprise, nuff to say I have done a HUGE amount of research so as to cut in a good way. I consider myself a cutting freak haha went from 180lbs and around 30%bf to 128lbs 7-8% bf...yes the fat boy trauma hit me ;p , but I realized I know not much about Bulking, here's where you guys come in if you may.
I like lean stuff, so I'm gonna do this in a sort of Lean Bulk/Recomp style with Lean Gains , and my cut could be postponed until July since my supplements will ship on may 31st and arrive around June , I'm fine with postponing, I now know how to cut my fat down. Mass is what I need and I thought I could use a little help, nutrition is not a problem , since I can fairly well calculate my macros, and calories, so I'm gonna try to be in calorical surplus around 3-4 days a week and a little bit of a deficit (or actually just maintenance) the rest of the week, the rest days per say.
Where I would like your help is in the supplement Area. Test boosting and natty stuff of sorts to help get a kick into it, and since I'm close to the limit of 8 weeks Erase , well I can't do the stack of DAA and Erase pro </3 I so wanted to try it , but I respect breaks from supps, so 4 weeks break from PES magnificence. Also AI caught my eye , the "Swole Stack" Testopro , Stoked, Glycobol, seems nice for a bulk , now , what to add? or what would be a better option? With GOOD RESEARCH behind it , I would like to see some real data if possible, and if it is not too much to ask...to build a good suplement plan for this.
(Advice on Pre Workout? Heard SWEET things about Hemavol, Agmantine, Maniac, Craze, Focus XT)
I already got this. But please people , just have some mercy on a little guy like me and help me out...I dont know if I should Look into Ana Beta , or DAA without the AI Erase/Erase Pro , or maybe some other AI that does not interfere with the 4 week break?...Ideas , thoughts?
As for training , 3 (or maybe a 4 day mesocycle) of 5/3/1 and well , either I am gonna do +20%/-20% kCals for w.o/rest or most likely +20%/maintenance kCals for w.o/rest days...
Thanks for reading!! !!
- 04-25-2012, 11:08 PM
Doing this from my phone. Can you post 3-4 questions you want answered because it's tough to read through all of that
04-25-2012, 11:11 PM
1.- True or false that I need to take a break from Erase for 4 weeks before I go into Erase pro or erase again? (Close to the 8 week limit)
2.-Good , science and bloodwork proven natty Test Booster Stack?
3.- Any Other AI good to run even after 8 weeks of erase? So as to make the DAA/NMDA AI combo?
4.- Would the Swole Stack from AI (Stoked, Testopro, Glycobol) be good for my goals? Lean bulk/ recomp
04-25-2012, 11:16 PM
04-25-2012, 11:20 PM
How about 1-carboxy , good? or something else before bed?
04-25-2012, 11:23 PM
04-25-2012, 11:27 PM
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04-25-2012, 11:34 PM
Ok I couldnt find AI Agmatine in nutraplanet but theres a stack for SNS DAA + AGMATINE for a very good price , both capsules, I'm ok with it I guess hehe I dont have anything against powders or pills.
Now Nutraplanet is out of stock of their own Na-r-ala , why not glycobol? Just wondering , and believe me I take seriously all your advice hehe , I have seen your posts before and I do know YOU know what you are talking about :3
04-25-2012, 11:41 PM
Pills are generally nicer with DAA as many don't like the taste.
The NP Na-R-ALA is in stock. I recommend it because it is Geronova-licensed: http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...ala-25-gm.html
04-25-2012, 11:46 PM
Dosage for this Na-R-ALA you sent me?
Okie doke :3, oh and also , I tried Kaizen ZMA back in November...it didnt get me asleep or keep me asleep and that was a whole month without stims :S I guess I just dont respong well to it!! Someone told me you need lower calcium in your diet since it blocks zinc from being absorbed...It could be that :/...
So far , stack looking good:
Bulk Modern BCAA
Bulk Beta Alanine
Bulk Creatine Mono
Good multi perhaps? I dont think animal pak is good anymore...and idk about Opti-men
04-25-2012, 11:53 PM
Check out Orange Triad for a multi. AOR Ortho Core is good if you can afford it.
04-25-2012, 11:54 PM
The calcium/zinc interaction is overplayed, and Zinc isn't even the primary culprit for the deeper sleep. Have you tried <1mg melatonin doses? That is bar none the cheapest and most effective sleep aid, generally speaking.
300mg Na-R-ALA + 1g agmatine 45 minutes before breakfast (if you are IFing, first thing in the AM on an empty stomach is fine, just try it out once, as this stack affects blood sugar obviously).
The rest looks pretty solid. I don't generally recommend multivitamins on a bulk since micronutrients should be in abundance, but Orange Triad is a great option. It comes with full-dosed joint support, which at worst, is a preventative measure. Hit 2-3g epa/dha daily with your fish oil and you should be good to go!
If you have extra funds, pick up some bulk ALCAR. 2g dosed 30 minutes after your morning Na-RLA+Agmatine dose will optimize antioxidant activity, cognitive function, and testosterone levels.
04-26-2012, 12:01 AM
And yeah...Running good on funds hehe , I just wanna go nat and use every road possible and every mean possible , before even starting on PHs for size...I know I CAN do this...
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