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  1.  10-07-2004  06:11 AM
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    Originally Posted by OmarJackson
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    okay so ephedrine may cause prostate enlargement and saw palmetto reduces prostate hypertrophy by the inhibiting the conversion of test into DHT in the prostate, so my question is why does ephedrine cause prostate hypertrophy and will saw palmetto and the inhibition of DHT conversion be of any help?
    You realize that there are no definitive answers to your questions? You do realize that for every attempt at explaining my understanding of these things, and why I may believe certain things about certain supplements/chemicals/hormones, that there will be others who will say "yeah, but..." or "no, you're wrong because...?" You do understand that research and understanding of chemicals, hormones, mechanisms of actions, etc are: 1) ongoing; and 2) is wayyyy beyond anything anybody on this board is gonna get into?

    Bottom line - check out Medline, SupplementWatch.com, Doctor's Guide, Google, etc... and decide for yourself if $5 spent on 100 capsules of Saw Palmetto extract is worth it To YOU, because only you can decide.



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    I have been taking prducts containing ephedra(Ripped fuel, Yellow jackets, Stacker, etc.) for NINE years straight. I don't seem to have any prostate problems, but I don't get as hard as I probably should. My main problem is that I can't stay energetic or even awake without it. I try to quit, but I need energy for my job and lifting and caffiene alone does not cut it. If I go long enough without it, do you think my body will recover or is it shot? Any advice on what to do would be greatly appreciated. BTW I never take equal or more then the recommended dose, I always took light doses.(if that even matters)

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    Originally Posted by muscles4life
    I have been taking prducts containing ephedra(Ripped fuel, Yellow jackets, Stacker, etc.) for NINE years straight. I don't seem to have any prostate problems, but I don't get as hard as I probably should. My main problem is that I can't stay energetic or even awake without it. I try to quit, but I need energy for my job and lifting and caffiene alone does not cut it. If I go long enough without it, do you think my body will recover or is it shot? Any advice on what to do would be greatly appreciated. BTW I never take equal or more then the recommended dose, I always took light doses.(if that even matters)
    dude thats lucky, or maybe i'm just unlucky. I have only been taking ephedrine for 3 months on and off, the first 2 months only pre-workout, then a 2 week break, then 1 month of 25-50mg per day. Its been 4 days since i discontinued use and i'm still ****ing constricted as hell in my penis, like they're a tight rubberband around my shaft, and my prostate is still acting up, it feels as if i got something stuck up my ass, as you can imagine these things have my libido at an all time low, and its getting me pretty down. DAMN! THIS **** BETTER NOT AFFECT MY WORKOUTS.

    right now i'm taking zinc, magnesium, saw palmetto, and L-arginine and considering ordering some NO2 (the AAKG kind) and some cialis maybe.

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    Originally Posted by OmarJackson
    dude thats lucky, or maybe i'm just unlucky. I have only been taking ephedrine for 3 months on and off, the first 2 months only pre-workout, then a 2 week break, then 1 month of 25-50mg per day. Its been 4 days since i discontinued use and i'm still ****ing constricted as hell in my penis, like they're a tight rubberband around my shaft, and my prostate is still acting up, it feels as if i got something stuck up my ass, as you can imagine these things have my libido at an all time low, and its getting me pretty down. DAMN! THIS **** BETTER NOT AFFECT MY WORKOUTS.

    right now i'm taking zinc, magnesium, saw palmetto, and L-arginine and considering ordering some NO2 (the AAKG kind) and some cialis maybe.
    My doses were 25-75 mg per day. I guess I'm lucky compared to you, I wish I had some energy though. Out of the nine years I probably had about 60-90 days off of it.

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    Originally Posted by muscles4life
    My doses were 25-75 mg per day. I guess I'm lucky compared to you, I wish I had some energy though. Out of the nine years I probably had about 60-90 days off of it.
    Have you tried a liquid B-complex for energy ? It has helped me.

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    Originally Posted by OmarJackson
    hey, sorry if this question is elementary and been covered a thousand times before but this could serve as a good disscussion anway. I wanted to ask serious ephedrine users if in past cycles what negative side effects they had experianced, besides the obvious ones, like increased heart rate and difficulty getting to sleep. Currently i bumped my daily stack to 200mgC/50mgE/5mgY and i am experiancing some serious undesirable effects:

    anxiety
    insomnia
    loss of libido (this one really sucks, and i have no idea why ephedrine would be causing it)
    inhibition of skeletal muscle (this might be mental, but i'm feeling as if my contractions in the gym are weaker)

    this is defenitly not the first time i have used the above stack, but i'm thinking my body is trying to tell me no more. so, experianced Ephedrine users, have you experianced any of the above sides or am i just crazy and nuerotic.

    also i'm using vasporo brand ephedrine (the one you can get from 1fast400) which has guaifenesin.
    How many times a day are you taking that? 25mg is plenty for me and I dont like taking it more than once I day. I have taking it up to 3 times a day but it just isn't worth it. I defenitly feel the anxiety taking it more than once a day. I take it in the morning sometimes to help get started cause I get up at 5AM and head to the gym first thing.

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    Originally Posted by Iron Warrior
    Have you tried a liquid B-complex for energy ? It has helped me.
    I take a B-complex pill, haven't seen or tried the liquid, Does it work alot better than the pill?

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