Originally Posted by JonRubio Has anyone ever tried this? I'm just so tempted to give it a go. Not worth it. Craze+750mg Agmatine provides stupid, large pumps. Thats what im doing right now.
Tbh, I'm not a huge fan of Ultima. It has lots of stuff properly dosed but it's also very pricey. I prefer a medium stim preworkout+SNS CM+SNS Agmatine...
Although, Focus XT+Hemavol was AWESOME. Focus and pumps.
Originally Posted by VaughnTrue I honestly think its overkill, but you would be getting effacious doses of a ton of ingredients that way. agreed, spread those suckers out and stretch your finances. You won't pack on weight with these. If you are having trouble finding energy there maybe another underlying cause.
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