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    Need help with fat burners.


    This may be a little strange but I am about to come OFF a cutt.My question is....whats the best fat burner that is either non stim OR little stim to keep the fat off/minimize fat storage when I go on a calorie surplus.



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    Define little stim please.
    there are several options out there, it just depends on your definition of little stims
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    It's hard to really find an effective non stim fat burner . Build your tolerance with E\C and take it with creatine with a good diet..

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    Shift by PES will up your metabolism without the stim. Is your plan to go into a bulk or just back to maintenance?
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    Originally Posted by Aleksandar37 View Post
    Shift by PES will up your metabolism without the stim. Is your plan to go into a bulk or just back to maintenance?
    I think its important to figure out what your goal is also. Which are you focused on doing? Just cutting or maintaining your current?

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    Many have added lean xtreme to a bulk with great success in minimal fat gain
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    Originally Posted by vicesoldier View Post
    Many have added lean xtreme to a bulk with great success in minimal fat gain
    This or Reduce XT are your best bets. Muscle-sparing while preventing adipocyte differentiation.

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    Nice information guys...........Thank you.

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    Originally Posted by Aleksandar37 View Post
    Shift by PES will up your metabolism without the stim. Is your plan to go into a bulk or just back to maintenance?
    My goal is to maintain for 4 weeks followed by another 4 weeks maintaining to stabilize my bodyfat.Now it's 7% and I know I'm going to gain some back but I will try and hold on too it then lead into a clean bulk.Already have some shift on it's way to try and I have some erase!(Love erase)

    Originally Posted by Becks18 View Post
    It's hard to really find an effective non stim fat burner . Build your tolerance with E\C and take it with creatine with a good diet..
    I'm about to be coming off clen andI don't want to go to rehab for an EC addiction(like some people) and I like my adrenal system.Plus there is so much conflicting info on E/C being muscle wasting same for clen(Different topic for a different day.Keep that discussion elsewhere please)for me to take it all willy nilly.

    Originally Posted by Bnatural View Post
    Define little stim please.
    there are several options out there, it just depends on your definition of little stims
    I'm giving my adrenal system a time out.Non stim is the way I must go (I will be trying out dexaprine here in a bit though) nonstim has plenty of options for "preventing additional fat gain"from a calorie surplus which is what "fat burners",in my opinion,should be used for.They have been useful to me when I'm cutting but my diet did the heavy lifting.
    So far I have got greentea,alcar and shift.

    Revamp is suppose to clean your adrenal receptors but I dislike the idea of taking a pill to recover from another pill and jump back on another pill.The 4 to 12 week break will also be less expensive.

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    Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    My goal is to maintain for 4 weeks followed by another 4 weeks maintaining to stabilize my bodyfat.Now it's 7% and I know I'm going to gain some back but I will try and hold on too it then lead into a clean bulk.Already have some shift on it's way to try and I have some erase!(Love erase)
    Already have Erase and Shift is on the way? If Erase runs out, you should consider giving Erase Pro a shot. I would recommend going with that stack whether it is Erase or Erase Pro with Shift Please let us know how it goes!
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    Originally Posted by Aleksandar37

    Already have Erase and Shift is on the way? If Erase runs out, you should consider giving Erase Pro a shot. I would recommend going with that stack whether it is Erase or Erase Pro with Shift Please let us know how it goes!
    Will do.Also want to do a sponsored log with pes one day. I can get regular bloodwork done and that erase bloodwork would be interesting to see.

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    i'd roll with a simple stim free stack, sesamin + raspberry ketones would do you well
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    are you looking to use a "fat burner" while you bulk? is this a re-post?
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    Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    are you looking to use a "fat burner" while you bulk? is this a re-post?
    accidental post....my phone posted twice.More of a minimize fat gain stack.Bout to be off my cutt and I'm at 7%.I know 1 to 2 % bodyfat is going to come back realllll quick.I'm dieting pretty hard and I know I can't stay this lean for long but want to minimize fat gain as I'm coming off.

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    i wouldnt run a fat burner and have a calorie surplus personally, your diet is going to have to be on point at that % to minimize fat gain...are you co0ming off to maintenance or bulk?
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    Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    i wouldnt run a fat burner and have a calorie surplus personally, your diet is going to have to be on point at that % to minimize fat gain...are you co0ming off to maintenance or bulk?
    maintenance for 8 weeks and then lean bulk.

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    what's your current stats?
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    Originally Posted by BB12 View Post
    what's your current stats?
    230 6'5 7% bf
    Lifting for 5 years now.(which is why I'm contemplating going on maintenence indefinitely.)

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    Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    This may be a little strange but I am about to come OFF a cutt.My question is....whats the best fat burner that is either non stim OR little stim to keep the fat off/minimize fat storage when I go on a calorie surplus.
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    Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    TTA-500, Green Tea, Reduce Xt.
    boom! maybe some rk500
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