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    Stim free pre-workout


    I am looking to try a stim free pre-work. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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    A lot of people have good things to say about hemavol and ultima just to name a few. I'm currently taking hemavol for my non stim pwo and I like it a lot. Just like nearly everyone else will tell you...you get great pumps off it and I even feel some focus effect I feel. I donno if its a coincidence or not but I feel like I've been more focused since I've started taking it.

    I'm sure u could just use the search bar on here and fight plenty on non stim pwo's also.
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    hemavol, tastes great, pumps and endurance are awesome, and stacks well with any stimmed pre-workout (if you use them at some points). ultima is one of my other person favorites. stacking them together is a great option too if you want to put out the money for both
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    ultima gets better the more you use it...
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    Ultima is one of the best pre-workouts regardless of stim or non stim. It is my personal fave and I regularly purchase it.

    I did just start using Hemavol for the first time this week, so no comment on it yet. It is well formulated and gets great feedback tho.
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    Athletic Xtreme Ultra Reps
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    In my opinion these are your best 3 in the category.
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    hemavol, premax
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clickster View Post
    Athletic Xtreme Ultra Reps
    Omega Ultima
    iForce Hemavol

    In my opinion these are your best 3 in the category.
    stack any of these together and you'll be good to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clickster View Post
    Athletic Xtreme Ultra Reps
    Omega Ultima
    iForce Hemavol

    In my opinion these are your best 3 in the category.
    How would these three affect blood pressure?
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    I recently tried Neurosurge and really enjoyed it. No buzz but a definate increase in cognition and energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironkill View Post
    I recently tried Neurosurge and really enjoyed it. No buzz but a definate increase in cognition and energy.
    Too bad there is 300mg of caffeine in that and the OP asked for a stim-free product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Too bad there is 300mg of caffeine in that and the OP asked for a stim-free product.
    I dont find 3oomg to give me any kind of stimulation, but thats just me. Thats about one starbucks. Wakes me up but doesnt give me any buzz or anxiety type symptoms. Just chiming in with my thoughts, the OP doesnt have to take it as gospel.
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    Ultima + Hemavol. You wont find a better combination IMO. Both supplements equally get insane reviews. Putting them together, is just unreal.

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    I think once iForce Compete hits the market I'll be covered when it comes to stim free pre workouts

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    I'd look into iForces Hemavol for those days you need pump product and use Neogenix BodyForge everyday I got some awesome strength gains dosing 2 scoops twice a day from BodyForge but with Hemavol you could make BodyForge last longer.
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    Not to Jack the thread or anything. But hemavol isn't really doing anything for me any more. You guys think I need to up the dose. Or does it just not work for me. I a/b it with n without n I got same results as far as pump.. it worked great first 4-5 workouts now not doing anything. I don't kno what's up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hugry4more View Post
    Not to Jack the thread or anything. But hemavol isn't really doing anything for me any more. You guys think I need to up the dose. Or does it just not work for me. I a/b it with n without n I got same results as far as pump.. it worked great first 4-5 workouts now not doing anything. I don't kno what's up.
    How were you dosing it and what was your pre workout nutrition workout like?

    If you were taking 1 scoop I would recommend taking 2 if you were taking 2 scoops we need to work on the dosing time ect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackedCop View Post
    I think once iForce Compete hits the market I'll be covered when it comes to stim free pre workouts
    With you on this one bro. I love stim free pre workout combos. Compete + Hemavol is going to melt faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackedCop

    How were you dosing it and what was your pre workout nutrition workout like?

    If you were taking 1 scoop I would recommend taking 2 if you were taking 2 scoops we need to work on the dosing time ect.
    Guess I need to up to two scoops. I really been trying to avoid that though Cuz then ill go through it really fast. I norm have a shake with 50 grams whey and 600 calories of carbs. Then 30 min later take hemavol. Then Im hitting weights bout hour after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hugry4more View Post
    Guess I need to up to two scoops. I really been trying to avoid that though Cuz then ill go through it really fast. I norm have a shake with 50 grams whey and 600 calories of carbs. Then 30 min later take hemavol. Then Im hitting weights bout hour after that.
    you dont need 2 scoops IMO, just a much more empty stomach during consumption.


    50 grams whey + 200g carbs = a full stomach.


    Try dosing 1 scoop HemaVol on a TOTALLY empty stomach, and then eating 30 moinutes later.
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    Would eating Something small...say a chicken wrap with 20g pro and around 20 g carb about 2 hours before taking hemavol be considered taking it on an empty stomach? Basically I'm just asking how long should the gap be between eating and taking the hemavol to get the full potential of the pwo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post
    Would eating Something small...say a chicken wrap with 20g pro and around 20 g carb about 2 hours before taking hemavol be considered taking it on an empty stomach? Basically I'm just asking how long should the gap be between eating and taking the hemavol to get the full potential of the pwo?
    yes, 2 hours post consumption = empty stomach
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

    you dont need 2 scoops IMO, just a much more empty stomach during consumption.

    50 grams whey + 200g carbs = a full stomach.

    Try dosing 1 scoop HemaVol on a TOTALLY empty stomach, and then eating 30 moinutes later.
    Sounds good ill try it today. Thanks for the advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post
    I'd look into iForces Hemavol for those days you need pump product and use Neogenix BodyForge everyday I got some awesome strength gains dosing 2 scoops twice a day from BodyForge but with Hemavol you could make BodyForge last longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amarula View Post
    Aren't you forggeting Clout and Body Octane from MAN?
    Two other extremely good products. I also regularly use Clout.
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    Who makes Complete? What's in it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemistryguy View Post
    Who makes Complete? What's in it?
    Compete is made by iForce and is not out yet. I'd love to see what is in it as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Compete is made by iForce and is not out yet. I'd love to see what is in it as well
    ^^^^

    product is still in the works, gotta make sure the flavoring is up to par with hemavol/max intense before we can release it to you guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    ^^^^

    product is still in the works, gotta make sure the flavoring is up to par with hemavol/max intense before we can release it to you guys
    If you ever need a tester you know where to look

    Also, after a couple workouts with Hemavol I can already say I endorse its use. Definitely seen an acute increase in endurance and the effects of Agmatine are apparent as well (dosing SNS Agmatine in the morning as well ). Flavor is also just like the Lemon Drop candies...pretty tasty
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    ^^^^

    product is still in the works, gotta make sure the flavoring is up to par with hemavol/max intense before we can release it to you guys
    Looking forward to this release! Can't wait to see the ingredient profile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    you dont need 2 scoops IMO, just a much more empty stomach during consumption.


    50 grams whey + 200g carbs = a full stomach.


    Try dosing 1 scoop HemaVol on a TOTALLY empty stomach, and then eating 30 moinutes later.
    Vaughn,

    On my lifting days I usually get up at 2PM and eat finish eating around 2:30. I wait until about 4-4:15 to dose my Hemavol/Maximizev2 (2 scoops/1.5, respectively). Sometimes I still feel like I'm not getting anything out of it... should I wait a little longer to try the 1 scoop on an empty stomach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
    Vaughn,

    On my lifting days I usually get up at 2PM and eat finish eating around 2:30. I wait until about 4-4:15 to dose my Hemavol/Maximizev2 (2 scoops/1.5, respectively). Sometimes I still feel like I'm not getting anything out of it... should I wait a little longer to try the 1 scoop on an empty stomach?
    Why you only asking Vaughn? You don't trust me Brah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackedCop View Post
    Why you only asking Vaughn? You don't trust me Brah?
    I trust you, brosef. What you think about it? I guess I'm really only giving myself about 1.5hrs of digestion time before taking in the preworkout. Perhaps I'll wake up slightly earlier but still dose at the same time. Get up at 1PM, eat by 1:30PM, take preworkout at 4:30PM...

    I'll try this today and see what happens. Depends on my workout too. Some I feel more on, some not so much. And I've always stuck to the same dosing timings so... PFFFFFT
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
    I trust you, brosef. What you think about it? I guess I'm really only giving myself about 1.5hrs of digestion time before taking in the preworkout. Perhaps I'll wake up slightly earlier but still dose at the same time. Get up at 1PM, eat by 1:30PM, take preworkout at 4:30PM...

    I'll try this today and see what happens. Depends on my workout too. Some I feel more on, some not so much. And I've always stuck to the same dosing timings so... PFFFFFT
    I believe Vaughn suggests 2 hours after eating.

    I normally wait 1 hour maybe 1.5 and
    I get mega pumps. What I've been doing the last week or so is this

    Wake up take 1 scoop hemavol & 300mg rala

    20 mins later I eat my high carb pre workout meal followed by a protein shake

    1 - 1.5 hours later I take another scoop hemavol with my max intense then leave for the gym. Works every time.. Pumps have been slightly better since I started splitting the dose.

    When you get a chance check out this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackedCop

    I believe Vaughn suggests 2 hours after eating.

    I normally wait 1 hour maybe 1.5 and
    I get mega pumps. What I've been doing the last week or so is this

    Wake up take 1 scoop hemavol & 300mg rala

    20 mins later I eat my high carb pre workout meal followed by a protein shake

    1 - 1.5 hours later I take another scoop hemavol with my max intense then leave for the gym. Works every time.. Pumps have been slightly better since I started splitting the dose.

    When you get a chance check out this thread

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    Will give this a shot today and let you know
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
    Vaughn,

    On my lifting days I usually get up at 2PM and eat finish eating around 2:30. I wait until about 4-4:15 to dose my Hemavol/Maximizev2 (2 scoops/1.5, respectively). Sometimes I still feel like I'm not getting anything out of it... should I wait a little longer to try the 1 scoop on an empty stomach?

    You sound like me bro, I work night shift and wake at 2. I drink 1 scoop hemavol immediately upon waking. 30 minutes later I have breakfast usually 2 scoops protean + pancakes. Then 30-40 mins later 1 scoop maximize intense, 1 scoop hemavol. Immediately pre-workout, bcaas.

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