I don't know much about amino acid receptors,, which is why I proposed this thread... but I do know they exist ...Originally Posted by David Dunn
"Amino Acid Receptor Research"
By Benjamin F. Paley
All these articles mention taking on an empty stomach to prevent competition.... I want to know more about this.... not looking to pick some sort of retarded online fight with people ... lmao!!
It appears that this receptor you are talking about is post first pass through the liver and has absolutely nothing to do with how you take them - empty stomach or not - as they don't compete for absoption in your digestion aside from the fact that BCAA are predigested and are absorbed without having to go through the digestion process that protein powders or whole foods do. The receptor issue is a physiological and nuerological issue and not dependent upon the timing or state of your stomach at the time of consumption but rather what happens with them after first pass liver processing.
Based on my cursory review of some of that literature it is JMHO
For argument sake,, why does my and arginine both say to take on an empty stomachOriginally Posted by David Dunn
I'm talking about wanting to get the most bang for my buck .... lol... like I said,, if I already knew all about receptors, why would I post a log asking about them? Haha!?Originally Posted by bigdavid
Crystaline free form amino acids do not need to be digested,, so where does that play into the pre and post digestion competition for absorption??
I think you may be right about that,,, like I said early in the thread,, I wasn't sure the term "receptor" was the correct termOriginally Posted by bigdavid
With that in mind,,, how important is the necessity to take aminos individually on an empty stomachOriginally Posted by bigdavid
So the thought is take the free form aminos on an empty stomach to avoid competition from the aminos that will come from the whole protein source.
What about ff aminos competing with each other,, even when taken on an empty stomach,, that's my main concern and the crux of what I was originally trying to get toOriginally Posted by bigdavid
Now greater amounts of various forms or proteins, EAA or BCAA consumed may influence the amount available to pass through the liver increasing what is available for receptors after passing through the liver.
If you are taking a limited dose of more than one amino there shouldnt be an issue. It is not like you are taking over 30 grams of ff AAs
Ok,, it is my understanding that bcaa's do not act the same way upon ingestion as, let's say, arginine, ornithine or glutamineOriginally Posted by David Dunn