Looking for sick supps...help me modify what I'm already taking! Need a game changer

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    Looking for sick supps...help me modify what I'm already taking! Need a game changer


    I am 6'4 210 pounds and about 12 percent body fat. I have a good physique, but looking to turn heads when the weather warms. I am currently on a 3000+ calorie diet and taking in about 250 grams of protein a day. Goals are to decrease boy fat to about 10% and put on about 10 more pounds. Thanks all.

    What I'm currently taking:
    Whey protein
    Fish Oil
    Multivitamins
    Fiber pills
    3-test-oxo (German Tribulus)
    A generic creatine monohydrate
    Liver Detox
    Jack3d (want to drop due to false positive drug screens)

    I am looking for a game changer. I don't want anything that could possibly make me fail drug screens. I need an awesome Creatine and a clean preworkout.

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    Look through this thread.

    Top 10 Supplements

    It has some good information that may be of help to you.
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    Yeah, was a little helpful. Nothing I didn't already know. Was hoping for a different point of direction for supplements. Like, "you should take Creapure instead of your generic CMH".
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    Your stack right now is pretty terrible

    Id work to revamp the whole thing.

    I do like the fishoils, whey, creatine mono

    Liver detox depending on your situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForAnAngel View Post
    Yeah, was a little helpful. Nothing I didn't already know. Was hoping for a different point of direction for supplements. Like, "you should take Creapure instead of your generic CMH".
    Maybe look into some MCC. I've read some good stuff about it. I'm taking it and I like what I'm seeing BUT I am taking a handful of others supps as well so it's hard to directly connect the MCC to any progress I'm making.
    Sorry bro, don't have any hard answers for you. Just suggesting what I've seen suggested.
    Hopefully some other more knowledgeable peeps can weigh in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercage View Post
    Your stack right now is pretty terrible

    Id work to revamp the whole thing.

    I do like the fishoils, whey, creatine mono

    Liver detox depending on your situation

    Okay, cool. What do you reccomend? What's horrible?
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    I'm really liking the carnitines as well. PLCAR, LCLT, ALCAR.
    I really feel these are doing good things for me in the gym and out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForAnAngel View Post
    Okay, cool. What do you reccomend? What's horrible?

    High EPA/DHA fishoil I shoot for 2-3g EPA + DHA...this is not the same as total Omega 3
    Beta alanine ~4g daily
    Creatine: 2.5-5g daily
    Chelated Minerals and Vitamins to fit your needs (Magnesium is especially important to me, Vit D/C/B).
    BCAA/EAA on a cut..something that meets label claims (I see a lot of questionable ones recommended here)
    Protein if needed is fine

    I also like (but these are not necessary for a basic stack):
    Taurine
    Carnitines (2g+ of each ALCAR and LCLT personally, altho PLCAR is also good)
    Ubiquinol 200mg daily
    Joint Supplement
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    run an epistane or helladrol cycle
    OEF '11-'12

    Don't be upset with the results you didn't get from the work you didn't put in.
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    Where do you get your Beta Alanine from? Any good deals? Also what creatine do you use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masciaman View Post
    run an epistane or helladrol cycle
    I can't take any PH's until I stop getting tested. Helladrol shows up in tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masciaman View Post
    run an epistane or helladrol cycle
    Yeah, if you want to mess with prohormones, you won't piss hot on Epi and you will definately put on pretty clean size and strength. But then you have to worry about proper on cycle and post cycle supps.
    A little different from the "natural" route that it looks like you wanted to take. But it's an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForAnAngel View Post
    Where do you get your Beta Alanine from? Any good deals? Also what creatine do you use?
    I get my beta alanine from Purple Wraath and/or SNS Beta Alanine caps.



    If you are looking for the most for your money, get any bulk creatine monohydrate you trust the quality of. Allmax, ON etc all sell creapure which assures purity.

    I use Green Bulge for creatine. There are some nice bonuses in there over standard mono. The creatine will work roughly the same way, however those who truly have GI distress from mono may benefit from MCC. Nice B vitamin stim free energy boost from the most bioavailable forms of B6/12 on the market. Orotic acid, K-R-ALA etc.
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    Yeah, im staying clear from the PH guys. Any other thoughts? Preworkout? Creatines?
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    2 grams of Niacin pre-workout. It will light you up! lol
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    Alright, how does this look?

    Whey protein
    Fish Oil
    Multivitamins
    Fiber pills
    3-test-oxo (German Tribulus)
    Beta-Alanine
    Hemavol
    Creapure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercage View Post
    High EPA/DHA fishoil I shoot for 2-3g EPA + DHA...this is not the same as total Omega 3
    Beta alanine ~4g daily
    Creatine: 2.5-5g daily
    Chelated Minerals and Vitamins to fit your needs (Magnesium is especially important to me, Vit D/C/B).
    BCAA/EAA on a cut..something that meets label claims (I see a lot of questionable ones recommended here)
    Protein if needed is fine

    I also like (but these are not necessary for a basic stack):
    Taurine
    Carnitines (2g+ of each ALCAR and LCLT personally, altho PLCAR is also good)
    Ubiquinol 200mg daily
    Joint Supplement
    This is about as good of a general suggestion as you are going to get. Good post and I agree 100%. I personally like adding R-ALA (prefer Nutra's NA-R-ALA) with my carnitine tho

    Quote Originally Posted by ForAnAngel View Post
    Alright, how does this look?

    Whey protein
    Fish Oil
    Multivitamins
    Fiber pills
    3-test-oxo (German Tribulus)
    Beta-Alanine
    Hemavol
    Creapure
    The German Trib is probably useless. The only thing I personally would add is Agmatine on the off days before the first meal of the day with a quality R-ALA product.
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    Done deal. Thanks a lot All. Just got my product. My prework is Assault by MP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    I personally like adding R-ALA (prefer Nutra's NA-R-ALA) with my carnitine tho

    I cant argue with this. Na-R-ALA is worth the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercage View Post
    I cant argue with this. Na-R-ALA is worth the money.
    I just purchased a tub of NA-RALA from Nutra Planet.
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    Whey protein
    Fish Oil
    Multivitamins
    Fiber pills
    3-test-oxo (German Tribulus)
    Beta-Alanine
    Creatine Monohydrate
    Assault Preworkout
    Nutra Planets Na-Rala

    Hammer all that down with 3000/3500 calories a day and **** ton of protein. Better stack???
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